In this segment I will layout an example as to how Roehl Transport, in my opinion, is short changing [1] their drivers under The Roehl Honor Program. It comes down to just a few simple calculations.
Having 6-12 months experience within Roehls National Van fleet, a driver under The Roehl Honor Program will be paid $1,490.00 biweekly assuming no additional incentives or bonuses. Drivers with this level of experience are expected to drive 350-500 miles a day (per a Roehl fleet manager). Biweekly under the National Van fleet, you will work 11 days and be off for 3.
Assuming a 400 mile day, averaging 50 mph, this means a minimum of an 8 hour driving day. Add in 2 hours for waiting on assignments, performing PTIs, and doing paperwork; you will be working a 10 hour day. (Yes.., paperwork is indeed work )
Now, over a two week period under the National Van fleet straight mileage plan (non Honor Program), you too will work 11 days and be off for 3 biweekly. During this time, a driver should accumulate 4,400 miles. And having 6-12 months experience, this driver will be paid $0.32 per mile, which equates to $1,408.00 in earnings.
The Breakdown our straight mileage plan driver works eleven ten hour days for $1,408.00. Looking at it from an hourly wage; as you should always do - this driver is making a whooping $12.80 per hour. Naturally, he earns no income during his 3 days off.
As for our Veteran - given the same criteria as described above for our mileage driver, the veteran will earn $1,490.00 over a two week period; and he will average $13.55 per hour. Not bad. And for now, it sure beats our mileage guys hourly pay. Plus, we didnt factor in the fact that our veteran is being paid for their three days off (hypothetically). After all, they are on a set income.
But wait what mileage paid driver is going to drive for only 8 hours a day when there is money to be made! After all, youre away from home, bored and lonely; you might as well put in a full day! And further more the company you are working for expects you to do just that..!
Based on DOT rules, an 11 hour driving day is the maximum you can legally do. These hours plus the additional 2 hours per day for miscellaneous duties, our mileage driver will see a biweekly pay check of $1,936.00. His hourly rate would now increases to $13.54.
As for our veteran..., Sorry G.I., your bi-weekly check would remain at $1,490.00. But, by driving for 11 hours a day and working an additional 2 on miscellaneous duties brings you a rewarding hourly rate of $10.42. Congratulations, you are nearing the National Poverty Wage. [2]
So much responsibility for so little pay
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The above is a typical model under The Roehl Honor Program. Regrettably, it is one that is an embarrassment to our honorable servicemen and women.
[1] It is not the intent of these writings to imply that Roehl Transport knowingly attempts to withhold earnings from any individual. These writings are to be considered as an educational exchange of information and conversation and no more.
[2]US Department of Health and Human Services sets as the US poverty guideline for a family of four in 2006 (a grossly insufficient guideline of $20,000).
Roehl Bad News for Veterans; Part 2
Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by 418 Bravo Victor, Dec 19, 2007.
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So, when freight's slow, the honors program has no benefits? You're not being paid for the three days off, the same as an office worker who works 5 days a week isn't being paid for Saturday and Sunday. If you're stuck out of hours, you're still making your salary. The guy on mileage? Nope. Sure a guy on mileage can make more money than those on the honor program, but they can also get stuck at a truck stop so they can catch up on their 70 hours. If they do pay that at their layover pay, it's $10/hour. And I'm pretty sure Roehl's very upfront about it from the beginning, not forcing you to take the honors program--in fact, they don't even pressure you to work for them. 93 days home in a year is over 25%, the equivalent of working 5.25 days per 7 days. I haven't seen a "Drive for Roehl and join Bill Gates' country club" poster yet, but when I see it I'll be sure to let you know. What I'd like to know is what they promised you that you didn't get, seeing as you knew the responsibilities of being a trucker and the lifestyle associated with it. If I go to Wal-Mart and buy a plain 'ol CRT TV, I don't take it home then rant about Wal-Mart because it didn't magically turn into an LCD TV with a free 5.1 Dolby receiver.
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How are you at comparing apples to oranges? I would like to see that breakdown as well, since your numbers are fantasy.
You don't drive 11 hours a day at Roehl. Thier average dispatch is somewhere between 500-800 miles, with quite a few 200-300 mile runs thrown in for good measure. So between pre trips, drop and hooks, and live unloads, the chances of you driving 11 hours is remote at best. The rest of the equation is just someone skewing numbers to make a point.
I could manipulate numbers to make my point as well, but I have much better things to do.
The Honor Program is what it is. A chance for Vets to get free training in a career that may or may not suit them. At least Roehl gives them a chance at that. -
I guess there are some people who just plain like to complain.As I see it the $1490.every two weeks breaks down to $745. a week for learning a new trade. That sounds pretty good to me. Driving truck is just another way to make an honest living,and everbody has to start somewhere.And just like any other occupation there is no one holding a gun to your head,to keep on doing it. You have the right to back out or jump ship whenever you choose. Having spent quite a few years driving over the road,I realize that even an experienced driver will have weeks now and then that will not meet that $745. As far as driving 11 hrs. every day plus on duty time ,it aint gonna happen. Just remember the max. hrs. you are allowed to drive and be on duty per day is 14,and 14 times 5 equals 70 hrs.Then guess what you gotta shut down for 34 hrs. You wanna sit back and play with numbers,try these on for size.
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Exactly, I wish I had a guaranteed $700 a week for two years when I started. Heck, I would have been happy with $500. A salary job in truck driving? That is a good deal no matter where the money comes from.
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It seems that as long as you have a decent weekly number which $745 is not in the year 2007, that it matters not how many hours you had to put in to get that paltry sum.
Comparing a bad wage with bad working conditions with one that is even more bad is in my view pointless.
Many OTR company's like the ex- military people (such as myself) because like in OTR trucking, they are used to working long hours and getting paid for only part of their workday, used to being away from home, used to having discipline, and used to being treated like carp by their superiors.
Why would anybody with GI benefits want to come out of the fire and into the flames? Who is advising these veterans anyway? Some moron? I say go to a Tech Collage or University and get a job that pays in 40hrs what a OTR company pays in 70hrs. Life is short so why waste it working for free for a OTR company.
If you want to drive a truck you don't have to work in the OTR sweatshop to do it. Many company's will train a veteran to drive their rigs for free and pay you for All hours worked not just part of them
Don't believe what these carppy CDL mills tell you. You do not have to drive OTR and become a stranger to your friends and family to get your foot in the door in trucking. Only the lemmings and the lazy need do that. -
Why do the OTR thing? Some people ask why.....
Everyone seems to forget that some people actually prefer to be OTR. And some people, me among them, think they are going to like it so they want to try it.
Some people actually like to sell used cars.
Some people like to work at great heights.
Some people like to work in the same building, with the same people, in the same office everyday.
I am sure there are alot of people who do what they do because they feel they have no other choice.
I am sure there are also alot of people out there who do what they like to do, and don't care if it makes sense to, or pleases other people.
If you presently hate your OTR gig, quit it and go do something else.
If you once hated your OTR gig, go complain somewhere else.
If you go through life with a negative outlook you deserve what you get.
But please spread your negativity somewhere else.
I am tired of reading about it.
This is not directed at any one person, so please do not take it personally.
respects,
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######, you should know there is no bad mouthing of roehl allowed on this message board, and if you do, be prepared to be picked apart at the seams. havent you been informed that this site is the roehl fan club???
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Im in the honor program and Im very happy with it. Why may you ask? Well as a new driver if I was getting paid by the mile I have no idea how much money I would make, I think having a set pay amount is great till I get experience, if I had experience I would know the good short cuts around traffic and such as these "old timers do", Anther point, I was stuck down south waiting for a load and got Zero miles for one day, guess who still got paid. With any program there is the good and bad, does Roehl make money off the sweet of my back, they sure do, but I got FREE training 100% and could have quit the next day and not cost me a dime. I try to drive just like I am getting paid by the mile. Am I losing out on money? Maybe, maybe not, but I get a descent wage and I am keeping in mind I am still learning the trade. As for Roehl making money off the deal they probly do, but thats how ANY company makes money and they need to make money to keep the tires rolling.
The bottom line is, would I be better off or happier driving for Swift or Werner?Im paying my dues getting some miles behind me and not worrying about get $250 for a weeks work like I have read about so many times. Say what you want but the Roehl honor program is the best thing out there for a NEW driver.
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