New and Re-manufactured Engines....

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Miami Trucker, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. gerardo1961

    gerardo1961 Road Train Member

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    when i read this correct ,i can buy a 08+truck with more then 435k,delete the emissions crap.and iam legal, can go to california without troubles,is this correct ,when no correct me
     
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  3. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    He didn't say anything about CA, CARB plays by their own set of rules out there.
     
  4. gerardo1961

    gerardo1961 Road Train Member

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    i have a columbia 07,i thinking to buy a other truck 08+to go to cali,only my problem is what engine is the best without troubles,what iam thinking is a minimum of a 011 truck with 010 eingine to have lees troubles.is not easy to find the perfect answer
     
  5. Old Tom

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    From your post and the EPA link, if I'm reading this correctly, my 2007 registered (2008model) Cummins ISX with 465,000miles on the clock is legal to run with DPF/EGR delete ............ correct??????
     
  6. Driver of the year

    Driver of the year Medium Load Member

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    Let's get rid of the EPA and we dont have to worry what year is our Engine!
     
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  7. Cowpie1

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    The key in that chart information is the hours on the engine. 22,000 hrs. The miles and time only come into play AFTER the hours are met. On the list of hour / years / miles, it is whichever is longer. If you notice note "p" in the chart, that note says that if the hours are met (22,000), then the miles and time conditions are modified to 10 years or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first.

    So, since most OTR trucks would rack up considerable hours before the 10 years condition, then all they would have to meet is the 100,000 miles, and that would have happened already. So..... essentially, for the OTR truck owner, the hours are the prime standard. Once that is met, then EPA regulatory compliance falls away.

    So, to answer your question, if your 2007 EPA engine has met 22,000 hours, and it has gone more than 100,000 miles, then YES, you can delete the DPF/EGR legally as far as federal compliance is concerned. CA is another can of worms and I am not considering that for what you asked.

    Clear as mud?
     
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  8. JohnP3

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    For those of you that want the EPA to go away you do not remember driving towards every city and seeing the big brown done of polution.
    The chart that says the usfull life of the polution equipment does not mean you can then remove it, that is when it may need work to stay compliant.
     
  9. fisher guy

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    screw the cloud if im loosing out fuel economy, and big bucks because of down time and repairs im gonna say leave the cloud alone it has nothing to do with enviromental it's all about money in the end and california is a prime example....if i offended u im not sorry i just cant stand tree huggers invading my way of life just to satisfy there own agenda ok rant over
     
  10. Cowpie1

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    I would disagree. The chart makes it clear that this is the useful life for compliance standard. Once useful life is met, by the standards on the chart, then it no longer has to meet emissions compliance. So simple that it eludes the most thinking of individuals. Don't read more into it than what it written. The EPA put this chart standard out. Now if you choose to continue to try and keep your engine meeting compliance standards, then by all means do so.

    Regarding the smog pollution and such of days gone by. I remember that. And the EPA in that time addressed it fine. But like most government agencies, they cannot deal with just solving a problem, they have to create more of them to solve. And then it gets out of hand. Like now.
     
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  11. Guntoter

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    What about the sticker on the engine that says "tampering with emission equipment is a crime"? Does that sticker fall off at 22K hours?
     
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