I Got Fired For Discussing My Hours Of Service

Per everything I have read and experienced with HOS, you need a 10 hour break before starting your next day. By my math, that you allow you to start at 8:15.

When you are doing your pre-trip inspection, do you take the full 15 mins??? If it only takes you 5 mins, do you wait another 10 mins before you start driving or do you just go when the inspection is done?

If your boss says the dock time is for 8:35, then go with it, she's the boss.

If you do the inspection in 10 mins, that still gives you 10 mins to get there, and you still haven't violated the 10 hour break.


On duty at 8:15, inspection 10:00 mins puts you at 8:25, drive 10 mins to postoffice puts you at 8:35

If that is the case, then you gained another 5 mins for either pre-trip or driving.

MTI did not violate your rights. The computer said that you turned off your truck at 9:54 and the company allows you 10 mins to do a post trip inspection, and that would put you off duty at 10:04. It's not the companies fault if you can't do a post trip in 10 mins. If it is company policy that a driver is allowed 10 mins for post trip inspection and you chose to ignore it, then that falls on you.

If you are off duty at 10:04 and then you start your next shift at 8:04, 15 mins for pre-trip puts you at 8:19, which would have given you 16 mins to drive to the post office and be there at 8:35 for your appointed dock time.

Bottom line, you refused a load based on an assumption that you didn't have the hours, when infact you did have the hours based on their company policy.

Pick your battles wisely. In this case, you didn't.

 

I hauled mail before and don't remember them being that strick about dock times, At least not for a few mins. I'm just not sure on why the big deal. I would think the loads would have been planned better by the company to insure drivers could meet all regs. Maybe a call to the DM. earlier to clarify the time of shut down would maybe hinder taking the next load. Just to help with matters, instead of just dropping the ball at the last min. Or the fact of already knowing I had that next load and when it needed picked up that I would have better perpaired myself to ensure I was off duty in time. I don't pass up any loads and prepair all day everyday. And always calling DM to ensure things go smooth not only for me but for them as well. Just some steps you might want to consider next time if there is a next time in your future.

 

You seem to be making some assumptions such as the distance to the post office and the "allowed time" for a post trip. I can't say I have ever seen a company that specified the exact time that a pre or post trip was going to take. I would not drive for a company like that

 

Hey (hate to prolong this thread even longer than it is BUT) I was thinking (yeah sorry) you know the pretrip is suppose to be the one you sign off on, thus being the most important?!?!? SO, if so, then ... Doesn't it take 15 minutes minimum for the engine to cool down? How could you check the oil if you only do a 5 min pre trip?!?!

 

I do believe she mentioned they actually pay her to do a pretrip and post trip. Most don't get paid. If she is using paper logs you can't log 10 minutes. You would have to go to 15 minutes. If you are on E logs and your company had it in their rule book that you had to show at least 15 minutes then you would have to stay there until the 15 minutes were up. But on paper you could put 15 minutes and at 5 minutes drive to where ever you pick up. She is being a stickler for the rules and giving her boss all kinds of headache's. So I see why they kicked her to the curve. I do believe she thinks this has something to do with her sexuality as to being fired that's why I believe she is saying she wants to be heard.

 

This is where the problem comes in.

It seems most here have no problem changing the log book and doing it the illegal way.

You say she is a stickler for following the rules and laws involved.

Now you wonder why the EOBR is coming?

 

Ya buddy the E logs are coming because people drive 5 minutes before their time. Get out of here with that. 1st off she seems to be local so it's not like the time is cutting into her sleep. She has to drive home and drive back in the 10 hour period. If the company is cry babyish about appointment times, and I like my job. Then I'm going to figure away to get it done. If not I shouldn't be mad when I get fired.

 

She tried to make her job legal.

You have the problem with it.

I had the office people tell me that I should log 15 minutes pretrip on a truck that sat for 3 days. It was what they wanted. I logged the time it took.

It is my right to run legal. It is hers as well.

You want to run illegal, so be it.

 

Its also her bosses job to get rid of people who won't do the job they need to be done.

 

So, if you work for a company, and they tell you to run illegal, it is okay with you if they fire you for not doing it?

After all, it is the bosses job to get rid of people who won't do the job they need to be done.