Help out a potential Prime driver

Discussion in 'Prime' started by skyflyer69, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. 2insane

    2insane Bobtail Member

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    Close to the HQ. As for rejected, lmao I have my own trucks and authority. So I would not apply for prime. I am not a Lease Operator. I am telling this as a business owner. I see dozens of good people, harmed by them as well as other.

    As for the 55% turnover at Prime, you must be a recruiter, So on the Lease Program year 2012, why is it that only 4 have completed the contract? With a hiring of appro. 2200 new drivers and a turnover of 120% You lost 2400 drivers. Why?

    You people that have never driven a truck, never hauled a load and never ran a business, this the paperwork and promises look good. Just be duly noted!! If a company was so dam wonderful, then why do they go thru so many drivers??? Answer that question. They call you an owner operator, for tax purposes, you are not you are a Lease Operator. You dont own crap. When you have Prime on the Truck, your name is not even on the registration. You cannot be a owner.

    Good Luck is all I have to say. The more of you that turnover is more freight contracts I get, so thanks
     
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  3. Easy Steamer

    Easy Steamer Road Train Member

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    Very well said,
     
  4. 2insane

    2insane Bobtail Member

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    You are lost. Speed has alot to do with it. If you cannot got the speed limit and cannot get miles, you lose!!!! do the math Speed 62MPH which makes it around a 53 MPH Average, Max miles per week with 70 hrs. Including around 5 hours of non-driving time = 65 hrs x 53MPH = 2080 Miles. Now a 75 MPH Truck average of 65 MPH x 65 Hrs = 4225 Miles. Thats a 1425 Mile Difference.

    You can get there on time. And be efficient. Oh BTW you almost always will 34 hr reset in the truck. And in July you will be sitting 2 days for free. With increase speed. I do a restart and home. And can run 14 days without a restart. Yes you do not have to restart if you have hours. And you do that with doing the dam speed limit. I love 75 across NE, WY, UT and other. I can get 750+ Miles in a day. :)
     
  5. Chucktaylor

    Chucktaylor Road Train Member

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    I must be breaking the law with this guys math. On e logs no less. My 2800 mile weekly average must be good enough for a few citations.

    hell, those weeks I get up to 3200 I must be looking at jail time in his book!

    55 mph that's what I run.

    Its always the math where people lose their credibility.
     
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  6. garp

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    Apparently math is hard. 65x53 is NOT 2080, and the difference between 4225 and 2080 is NOT 1425.

    Assuming your hypothetical 12 mile an hour difference for 65 hours gives an advantage of 780 miles.
     
  7. Pouring Coal

    Pouring Coal Light Load Member

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    The better comparison would be your "75 mph truck" @ 65, and lease truck at 60 mph, because very few states have an over 65 mph limit for anything over 10,001lbs. think. now what you are forgetting, and its a biggie, fuel cost, mr i own my trucks and authority. so ill even give you a prime truck running at 55. Ready? Pay attention because here we go:

    Your truck - 65 hrs x 65 mph =4225 now youre getting what, 6 maybe 6.5 mpg? ill give 6.5 even though your cranking, = 650 gal of fuel @ $4 = $2,600 in fuel costs.

    Prime truck @ 60 mph x 65 hrs = 3900, we'll assume this truck to be in the mid 7's on fuel, so 7.3mpg - 534 gal @ $4 =$2,136 in fuel costs

    Now, Mr Pokey prime driver @ 55mph X 65 = 3575 miles, now hes very fuel conscious, so will give him 8.2 mpg = 436 gal @ $4 =$1,744 in fuel costs

    oh, wait how bout that REALLY slow guy making only 53 mph? Ok, 53mph x 65 hrs is..... not 2080! =3445 miles and ill give him 8.5 mpg = 405 gal @ $4 =$1,620 in fuel costs

    Now to go even further, lets say, for common ground, all loads pay $1.75 with fsc per mile. you ran 780 miles more then the slowest guys, but paid $980 more in fuel to do it, is it worth it? 780 miles X $1.75 p/m =......$1,365, so yes in this case, you made $385 more then the slowest. (Fixed it, lol)

    Schools out, have a good one
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2013
  8. garp

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    Where does your $1,580 in fuel costs come from? I'm looking at him burning $980 more in fuel ($2,600 minus $1,620) meaning he'd be $385 ahead.
     
  9. Pouring Coal

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    So am i still lost? Before you assume im a rookie, might want to ask. Ive been around trucking and in the transportation business for the last 15 years, and understand quite well how it works from both an o/op's point of view and the office side's. Company guys are left out, as are other lease programs that pay per mile because its the opposite way of thinking, crank the miles, to hell with the other numbers, at least for this arguments sake. and i didn't bring in the other variables such as wear on the tires, equipment and so fourth. run as fast as you want, theres a point that you hit something called diminishing return.

    so no, speed is not the answer. add to this the fact that the 10mph keeps you running right with the bumper huggers and the increase in stopping distance makes it less safe.

    effeciency, safety, and prompt deliver my man.
     
  10. Pouring Coal

    Pouring Coal Light Load Member

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    lol, i ###### up the math. $ 1,580 is the mileage difference lol. yep he made $385 more. that #### post took me 40 minutes to do, garp you beat me to the punch. the whole point is slow down and put more money in your pocket.
     
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