Fuel Additive for winter

yes but it cant gel except whatever the ambient temp is
so how quick means?

when i was building fires under the D 9 cat because the engine block was as cold as my first wife
it was ambient temp but i was real cold from wind chill

 

if it's 10*F and you have untreated fuel, you will gel up faster on a windy day than you will on a calm day is all I am say. One might be 4 hours, the other 8 hours.

 

When are you two getting married?

 

if that is the case i will gel up quicker driving down the road at 60 mph?
then sitting at the TS

 

And you are also putting heat back into it with the engine running.


Saying that windchill has zero effect and a farce is about as crazy as it comes.

 

Wind chill increases the rate btus are stripped from any object that is heated and/or above ambient temps.

Since we drive 60-70 mph the wind direction is a very important factor. Parked protected from the wind will keep the truck and fuel warmer. The same is true when we plug the truck in while the engine is off.

That article posted from the previous page talks about an outdoor storage tank that isn't heated.

 

Fuel quality is the #1 issue here. Several previous posters are correct that water is usually the problem. If your truck is dying yet the fuel is clear (as opposed to cloudy or wax crystals) you have a water problem not a "gelling" problem.

When a truck dies from water what usually happens is all of the water piles up on one of the fittings, usually before the filter. It's important to remove water manually either from the tanks or the bottom of the fuel filter housing regularly. This is also the cause of having one tank drawing and the other one full. Diesel 911 will usually solve this.

People blame the truck stops for water in the fuel but almost every case it's mismanagement. Pouring rain for days then driving in -20 will almost always cause problems. The reality is as you're burning fuel that volume needs to be replaced. It gets replaced through the vent with air. If the air is extremely humid, you'll have a lot of humidity in the tanks. As the tanks cool it turns to water or frost on the inside of the tank, and you're in trouble. I've always thought of having air run into the tanks at a low rate (10 gallons per hour or so). The air coming out of our air system is always dryer than ambient.

Fuel gelling is actually not very common. First you will get wax crystals dropping out of the fuel, and the fuel will start to thicken. These crystals can be seen at the bottom of the fuel tanks. After that the fuel will start to cloud. This is usally where trucks start dying, the wax crystals plug the filter and the fuel gets thick. But we're not done yet, after the cloud point is the "gel" point, basically the fuel becomes a solid. Trucks usually die well before this. That's why I don't like the term "gelling".

I've had fuel cloud on me and the truck ran fine because I changed the filter. Immediately filled up with good Canadian fuel and I was on my way.

 

Believe that Scandinavians on the Middle East run,overland from Europe in 70/80's put cup full of brake fluid in full tank?

 

I ask my fuel dist for a spec sheet every now and then . The latest one said The cloud point of the fuel was -23f. I dumped some power service in too .

 

From the performance drop, I'd say TA is putting more additive than diesel in what they've been pumping in Ohio the last few days.