A Semi for Personal Use- Paperwork Question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TBigLug, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. TBigLug

    TBigLug Light Load Member

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    I want to buy a semi for my own personal use. Do I still have to go through all the hoops of heavy highway use taxes, and $12,000 in insurance? Could it be registered as a RV? We do alot of horse pulling and showing and pull some very heavy trailers (fully stocked with enough feed and bedding for 4 horses for a week or better plus all of our stuff). I guess I'm looking for anyone who's gone through the process of registering and insuring a semi as a personal vehicle before who could give me any advice, thanks.
     
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  3. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    You'll need to check with your State's DOT for the information you are seeking, if you plan to operate within your state only.

    There are many private carriers on the road.

    You will be required to meet some Federal Regs, such as log books. I base this on the facts you have provided. Those facts point out you will fall into the weight requirements that need to run log books. Unless you stay within a 100 radius of "home".

    You will fall into class 8 operator status for the most part. But, some of the requirements will not be as strict...IE cargo insurance etc.
     
  4. scurvydog

    scurvydog Light Load Member

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    Instead of a big class 8 truck, check out civilian versions of Freightliner FL60's. We have 2 of them for cattle hauls on my family farm and pull 40ft horse trailers/campers and 34ft cattle trailers just fine. We also move heavy equipment with them.
     
  5. TBigLug

    TBigLug Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the response. Do you know what the capacity of the FL60 is? I looked at one a couple years ago. Nice, but I'm looking for something older (also read as cheaper). I haven't weighed the trailer full yet but it is a converted 40' Kentucky with 10,000 lbs. of horse and harness alone. add in the weight of hay, supplies and the cart and plows, probably looking at around 40,000 lbs. between trailer and stuff. Thanks again for the help thus far.
     
  6. Brandonpdx

    Brandonpdx Road Train Member

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    I've also been more than a little curious at times wondering what it would take to register a privately owned Class 8 tractor as a personal use/recreational vehicle. (ie; not hauling trailers or freight around for pay.)

    Would a CDL still be required? Insurance? Reg? Hmm...
     
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  7. W5IT

    W5IT Light Load Member

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    There are more and more folks towing RV's with a Class 8 tractor. You can go to the "IRV2 dot com" website and go down to the HDT section and get your questions answered.

    I am thinking hard on singleing out a tractor to haul my fifth-wheel toyhauler. I tow with a F-350 Cab-n-chassis with a steel bed now. The truck and trailer scale out at a hair over 23,000 pounds loaded light with nothing in the toy section. The truck does a good job, but I would be a LOT more comfortable with a singled out tractor. Overkill maybe, but it would tow the trailer like it was a flea on a elephant. :biggrin_25526:

    If it is for personal/private use (Nothing commercial) you do not have to get a CDL. No logging, HOS rules and such. But several states now require a "Non-commercial Class A" license to operate trucks this way. You would have to check with your state DPS to see what is required in your state.

    I hold a Class A CDL as I used to drive a day cab with a drop deck. Also drove for a race team for a while. (Sometimes I miss the road and gotta get a "Fix" by makin a trip with my truck and camper) So additional licensing would not be required in my case. That and I ain't no stanger in the cab of a tractor.
     
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  8. TBigLug

    TBigLug Light Load Member

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    That's along the same lines as what I was thinking. Just like I pull a 4 bottom plow with a 125 hp. tractor!
     
  9. BOEHUNTER49

    BOEHUNTER49 Bobtail Member

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    If You Would Add Some Length To A Sleeper An Install A Water Tank An A Hot Water Heater, A Portable Hopper, You Would Have An Rv An Still Be Able To Tow Your Horses Around
     
  10. recgar

    recgar Bobtail Member

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    Most State laws will consider the class 8 as an RV and you do not fall under DOT law if;

    You are the owner of the vehicle
    You haul your own equipment with no intentions to earn income
    This also applies if you are renting a vehicle, such as Uhaul, Penske, or Ryder and use for your personal use

    But, as was suggested earlier, check with local law, or review your States CDL manual for verification.

    I have driven across the country in my KW W900, and in a rented Penske with no problems using the truck for personal use. Each time I stop at the scales to check, I am told the same by the Port Authorities.
     
  11. Zuma

    Zuma Light Load Member

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    I run a couple of heavy straight trucks, dump and water, at my ranch property, and have them tagged as farm vehicles. This exempts me from any commercial requirements. Note that I'm not running them acrosss any state lines.
     
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