Off duty, driving Tractor ONLY home, DOT Reg??????

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Auctioneer, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    I had officers at an Ontario inspection station spend an hour and a half checking my e-logs during a level 2 . My carrier just let 6 drivers go because of problems with e-logs at scales .
     
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  3. EZX1100

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    why were they let go?
     
  4. RickG

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    Abuse of personal conveyance , all of them . It had to be pretty serious because there has been a lot of minor violations
     
  5. MUSTANGGT

    MUSTANGGT Road Train Member

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    It sounds like maybe they commited the crime of going to get a hot meal after being stranded somewhere for hours.
     
  6. RickG

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    No , it was trying to run a loaded trailer PC when they ran out of hours less than an hour from home .
     
  7. MUSTANGGT

    MUSTANGGT Road Train Member

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    Ahh, I see
     
  8. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    ...but the computer LET them do it, so it HAD to be legal!

    I've heard that argument far to many times by the e-log supporters...and it is proof that e-logs aren't any more useful in "keeping drivers honest" in regards to the HOS regs than paper logs have been.
     
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  9. Cowpie1

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    And no one who actually has an IQ above 70 believed for a minute that e-logs would prevent anything. But they sure can be mighty reliable in substantiating a charge of non compliance, which was the intent. Truck moves, regardless of duty status, it is recorded. Then it becomes incumbent on the driver to prove what they were doing was legal per HOS. As a plus, they can also play a major role is saving a driver's bacon from an ambulance chasing lawyer that would be digging deep to find a log violation. It is all in how it is used. It is merely a tool to do a job, and can be used properly or not.
     
  10. windsmith

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    The way they could have gotten around that is to have driven around enough when coming back on duty to equal the time it would have taken to return to the point where they ran out of hours. Nobody could have proven that they weren't bobtail then.

    That is, if they weren't caught and inspected when committing the act.

    My personal opinion is that HOS is a big joke. Let the professionals (drivers) determine when they're too tired to drive, and hand out no-questions-asked lifetime disqualifications to those that are involved in at-fault collisions that occur during times that they choose to operate outside of the HOS safety envelope.
     
  11. EZX1100

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    grown men trying to go home

    shame on them

    we need to bring back public lashings
     
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