schneider shifting practices

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by razor ripper, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. razor ripper

    razor ripper Light Load Member

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    this is just a little post to let all those newbies out there, like me, that if considering going with schneider, know how to double clutch shift, as I found out the hard way as I whent to orientation this last week. I was not informed of this, and was even threatened that if I didn't pick it up quick, I would be sent home. I have been a floater for 6 seasons of AG working for the farmers before I decided to try my hand at pro. Any one know if this is as strong of a policy as the instructors make it seem? I guess what i mean is if I don't double clutch on the final asc test, will I fail it? and if so anyone know of any other good company who will take in somone who floats gears? Any advice would be readily welcomed.
     
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  3. haywire12

    haywire12 Light Load Member

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    Unfortunely the Major carrier prefer you to double clutch. This preserves the clutch and makes you more profitable when as a company driver. Especially, since it is there property and not yours. It's something that they will need to see that you do at your final assessment in order to be a company driver. After you get the okay to be a company driver then you can go back to floating. But beware they can terminate you if they find out. The best way is to either get your own truck or just grin and do what they say till after u get your truck.
     
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  4. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    nothing but corporate stupidity

    ask how many owner-ops double clutch vs replacing a clutch?
     
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  5. Tallman67122

    Tallman67122 Light Load Member

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    HUH? Double Clutch? Forget what that is lol. With my company (Knight) we never double clutch. During my 3 weeks of training my trainer told me to only touch the clutch as few times as possible. Yes in the old days these trucks needed to be double clutched. As technology improved so did the need for not double clutching came about. The new transmissions were developed to save us from double clutching as much as possible. Floating is what they want us to do. I float through the gears so freely sometimes it seems i am driving an automatic. You become so familiar with the truck and transmission you become one with it. The sound, the touch, the feel is second nature. Most of the time i dont even need to look at the speed or the rpm now to shift.
     
  6. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    Nothing wrong from learning the correct way, starting out. :biggrin_25514:
     
  7. THEPRIZEFIGHTER

    THEPRIZEFIGHTER Light Load Member

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    I'm not sure where you got this from but double clutching will wear out a clutch quicker than floating. The thing is a clutch is less than $1000 for a big company to have there maintenance department replace, rebuilding a transmission because some steering wheel holder thought he could float when he couldn't is $6000-10,000 at a shop or dealership.

    I don't know the policy's of all major company's but I think most will let you float. I know the ones I've worked for will.

    Also as a side note most transmission manufacturers say the only way to shift is double clutching, they don't even recognize floating as an option.
     
  8. Barchetta53

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    Are they just as strict with the double clutch downshift as they are with the upshift? The upshifting for me is no problem, the double clutch downshifting could use a little work... I can float my downshifts with no problem at all, I found a nice method of "rolling" on the accelerator rather than "burping" it like many do. In my time spent practicing the double clutch I had some problems coordinating the downshift with my "rolling" method.
     
  9. Barchetta53

    Barchetta53 Light Load Member

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    Indeed, I asked one of my instructors at school about carriers and their insistence on double clutching and his opinion was it was more about seeing where your coordination was at... Not sure if this is true, but makes sense to me.
     
  10. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    I don't double clutch and my truck has over 860,000 miles on the original clutch .
    The next thing EOBR's will do is tell if you are double clutching or not .
     
  11. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Im with haywire,wait till you get your own trk then do at you please.I flloat myself.But to make schneider happy I would suggest double clutching.I think the laws require schools to train like this.No you will not fail the final test.I was taught to double clutch in my school and the day I tested I double clutched.
     
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