91 N14 Cummins intermittent miss

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  1. Littleitchy

    Littleitchy Bobtail Member

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    I have a 91 International with a N14. I haul gravel and put on 200-300 miles a day rite around 15-20 rounds a day. The problem I'm having is I have a miss at idel and under a load but not all the time. I can make a round and it will miss like crazy, and not throw a lite ever, and the next time it will run smooth with plenty of power. I took it to a pretty reliable shop and had it put it on the comp. but they couldn't find any codes anywhere. When we got the truck it appears to have had the ECM, TPS and wire harness replaced Im thinking the previous owner threw some parts at it and finally gave up. The miss then NO miss if buggin the s*%t outta me I don't think its electrical, could it be the injector/s and not throw a lite on. Has anyone exsperanced this before??? PS. When accelarating itonly miss's for a few sec then smooths out threw the rest of the gear till I shift again.
     
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  3. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    I have seen weak or broken injector pass-through connectors, or the short pigtail harness at the top of the injectors cause this. The pass-throughs typically get skipped when replacing a harness.
     
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  4. Littleitchy

    Littleitchy Bobtail Member

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    Ok. I think we are workin on it next wk so I'll look into that. Thank You.............The A-Team Rocks.....I PITTY THE FOOO!! LOL!
     
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  5. black ultra

    black ultra Light Load Member

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    I know this will probably hurt a few folks feelings!!! The N14 is plagued with this very problem......among other things!
     
  6. CtG

    CtG Bobtail Member

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    Hmmmm... Thanks for that tip, have had one come in for the same issue
     
  7. Littleitchy

    Littleitchy Bobtail Member

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    Yea I know, but whatya do. Man built it, man should be able to fix it rite? Its only iron. :)
     
  8. Acm

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    I have never had the pass thru cause problems,but certainly worth a look.it has always been injectors with ours.with the intermittent ones it is extremely difficult to pinpoint though.if I have an intermittent one,the only way I have been able to find it is checking manifold temps with an infared handheld.I check them on start up,then continue as it warms up,and then check when engine has been working and note the differences.usually will show up as a slightly warmer or cooler at some or all the checks.then I replace that injector but keep the one I removed for awhile to switch if it wasn't the correct one.
     
  9. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    The pass throughs are only plastic. Plastic gets hard and brittle over the course of time. Connector lock tabs break/become weak and cause intermittent connections. The electrical connection becomes so deteriorated that the ECM cannot detect an open circuit, but the current is too low to properly fire the solenoids when under higher duty cycles when the engine is under more load. Remember, this engine is over 20 years old!
     
  10. Acm

    Acm Bobtail Member

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    I agree with you heavyd,just haven't personally seen them fail.I've had the lock tabs broken before though.usually see code for weak connections,but with electrical there is no guarantee they will give code.could also have ECM read and see if there are any discrepancy in voltages for injectors,may at least point ya to the right cylinder.
     
  11. Jason2013

    Jason2013 Bobtail Member

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    Sounds like you have injector sleeves that are worn.Most of the sleeves are copper and when they start to wear you get a miss under load or hard pull some times. Just had one in the shop with same problem.
     
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