Are we being watched? DOT verifying logbooks by computer

How they going to know where you fuel? Last one asked me about fuel tickets I said you mean I'm supposed to have them?
He knew I's hip to their game and moved on to the next thing. My times are close anyway if not spot on. I'm not going to help them find anything I did wrong, it's not my job and I'm not required to.

 

Anything you do electronically can be accessed. Prepass, I Pass, Qualcomm, credit cards, loyalty cards, fuel stops, license plate readers, cameras seem to be everywhere. Best thing to do now is log it as you do it. You never know when you may be involved in an accident. As far as not getting a fuel receipt, your company knows where and when you fueled. The scale master has a computer that has access to a lot of information in his state. Right after 9/11 I was inspected in a NY rest area because I had a HAZMAT load. Equipment was inspected, logs checked, bills scrutinized and I was released an hour and forty minutes later. They told me they called the shipper, my company for fuel information and gave Petro my truck number to get my fuel information. When the trooper asked me what I had to eat there I asked how he knew where I ate lunch. He said Petro told him what time I fueled and what time they swiped my loyalty card in the restaurant. Can you imagine how fast they can access your information now? It is all there, just depends how deep they want to dig.

 

This lists their snooping ways.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/documents/rulesregs/hos/FMCSA-2010-0168_signed_notice_updated_508.pdf

also 395.7 Interpretation

 

There was an accident in southern Virginia last week with a rig taking down an overhanging highway sign. The driver said on camera to a news reporter that he doesn't know what happened he was driving along then simply "fell asleep". During the investigation - at the accident scene - the police were able to review video of the truck passing through weigh stations at the times when his log had him in "bunk time". The driver is facing multiple charges now. So as a noob I take away a couple lessons from this poor guy's situation one I already knew e.g. everything we do in public is recorded in whole or in part by the myriad security cameras installed everywhere; the other lesson DON"T FALL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL when you've so blatantly fabricated your log.

We must remember that if we got recorded on an ATM security camera, fuel station camera, rest area camera, etc. then it is retrievable as is anything that a person does on the Internet from viewing CNN to sending an email - every time you access the Internet from your computer, phone, etc. you are doing so from a uniquely identifiable address (IP address) that can and will be traced back to you. Most security cameras today are digital (they store their collected video on a computer) which makes retrieval very fast and easy. There is nothing on any computer that is off-limits to the police in an investigation if it's protected then they might get a warrant but most security camera footage is "public" so they can get it without one.

 

And I suppose no one has ever seen those cameras that seem to be lining the roads in the last few years? And let's not forget that they can use your cellphone to track you. Maybe not exactly, but they can see when you "pinged" a cell tower and determine your location. If they want to, they can come pretty close to determining when you wiped your rear and how many sheets of TP it took to get the job done. No more Smokey and the Bandit except in the movies.

 

If you run paper logs and not saying you do... but if you push your log book back get rid of the per pass. Its for your own good

 

We have company issued Blackberrys and we get pinged every 15 minutes . It's a real PIA because if we are typing anything on the phone including a post here on the mobile site 0000 will appear in the message . If I am typing in Google search or entering a truck or manifest number on e-logs it will also self enter .
The Blackberrys got the carrier burner during an audit a few years ago . They were checking our locations every 15 minutes but never checked the locations against paper logs . The auditor did that and found a lot of falsifications .

 

Me thinks yall r taking this a bit 2 far--I have always & only run paper logs--&I'd bet a steak dinner all the scale man was doin was checkin his logs against PC miler--2 look 4 speedin/hours violations--since the op didn't mention anything about corresponding paperwork--I've been inspected plenty & can't remember a time in years they didn't run mileage reports against my logs--it is pretty much standard procedure--but ill bet I have only been asked for any supporting documents a time it 2--hell I got dot in Iowa while back and bear had laptop in car with scanner wand--scanned my last 8 days and puter did math just like most companies audits--easiest way 4 them 2 buzt u is time distance--too hard from phone to look 4 reg but remember any distance logged less than 5mph--UNDER the speed limit is considered a violation--& ucan b cited 4 speedin
Just my $.02

 

oregon does it....know from experience......

 

The usual inspection is just log book, BOL, CDL, medical card, registration, and proof of insurance. In NY one timeof the DOT broke the seal on my trailer, climbed in holding the BOL, looked at the labels on a few drums then walked on top of the drums counting them. Only ever had that happen one time. Usually they just check the seal. Another time a Waukesha,WI County Sheriff did a 3 hour inspection on my 1992 International 9700 COE looking for an air leak. He could hear it but never found it. He did however write me up for an oil leak. The truck leaked 3 quarts of oil every 12500 miles. A few weeks later Ohio pulled me over and at my request I asked the creeper cop to go over my truck. He explained to me that it might get expensive if he had to put me out of service on the side of the road. Told him to go ahead and my 14 year old million mile truck passed and he put the sticker on the windshield. But he did note a small oil leak. But usually if the paperwork is in order and the logs check out you are on your way in 10 or 15 minutes.