New Hours Of Service

If we let them, yes...
Hey, Cowboy, Landstar, EZX1100, RickG, carrkool, so forth and so on... I agree with you guys... but realistically, what are we going to do about it?... Calling and sending letters and faxes to these perilous clowns in Washington hasn't been working...Has it? Besides, there are sooo many folks that don't want to get involved and agree with everything that's forced on them... So, are we going to organize? Are we going to protest? Strike? Do we know what we want? Are we going to scream and voice our discontentment, our opinions and demand what we want from the top of the buildings, on the streets, on TV, radio, social media? Are we going to Rebel? Commit civil disobedience? Are we???

 

So... the Thought Police will be soon sifting through your mind???

 

The "Thought Police" has been "out" there, sneaking into most everybody's mind for a looong time.... You don't see it???

 

we need a representative voice

some say ooida
some say unions
some say strike

and yes, it will take acts of civil disobedience, our elected representatives work against our interested

this is bigger than we realize

 

so lets see the govt passed the 14 hr rule then it says well you need a break in there so now the new break rule. see if you drive 11 hours without break your a fool and probably arent smart enough to drive anyway,very bad for your health,[but that's probably a moot point looking at drivers today]why does everybody assume that we want to cheat,and who defines cheating anyway,the govt who by the way made up all the rules they keep changing,and how do you new drivers know anything bout safety when most [not all] hit everything around them [looking at there trucks] i been at this a long time, longer than most not as long as a few.once again let me drive when i feel good sleep when tired has worked for me.

 

I stand corrected... per post 129... earlier reports showed this to be driving only...

So Line 3/4 if = 8 hrs you must take a 30 minute break - line 1 or 2.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/statement.aspx

In addition, truck drivers cannot drive after working eight hours without first taking a break of at least 30 minutes. Drivers can take the 30-minute break whenever they need rest during the eight-hour window.

C. No driving if more than 8 hours since last break of 30 or more minutes
The final rule requires that if more than 8 consecutive hours on duty have passed since the last off-duty (or sleeper-berth) period of at least half an hour, a driver must take an off-duty or sleeper berth break of at least 30 minutes before driving. To address an issue raised by commenters, FMCSA has also added an exception for drivers of commercial motor vehicles (CMVs) carrying Division 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 explosives to allow them to count on-duty time spent attending the CMV, but doing no other on-duty work, toward the break.

(1) Why is FMCSA requiring drivers to take breaks?
Recent research found that any break from driving reduces risk in the hour following the break, but off-duty breaks produced the largest reduction. This study also showed that when non-driving activities (both work- and rest-related) were introduced during the driver’s shift—creating a break from the driving task—these breaks significantly reduced the risk of being involved in a safety critical event during the 1-hour window after the break. The benefits of breaks from driving ranged from a 30- to 50-percent reduction in risk with the greatest benefit occurring for off-duty (non-working) breaks.


(2) Do I have to take a break exactly 8 hours after I come on duty?
No, the rule gives drivers flexibility in when and where to take the break. The rule only prohibits driving if more than 8 consecutive hours have passed since the last off-duty period of at least 30 minutes. For example, if a driver spends 2 hours loading at the beginning of the day, then has a 10-hour drive ahead, he or she must take the break no later than 8 hours after coming on duty. The driver can, however, take the break earlier. If he or she takes a half-hour or more break at some point between the 4th and 8th hours after coming on duty, the driver can complete the rest of the planned 10 hours of driving without another break.


(3) Does the break have to be spent resting?
No. The driver must be off duty for at least a half hour. Meal breaks or any other off-duty time of at least 30 minutes qualifies as a break. Drivers carrying certain explosives, who are required to attend the vehicle at all times, are allowed to count attendance time, which is on duty, toward the break if they do no other work during that time.

 

For them, I have no sympathy. I wouldn't let, and don't let, anyone push me on any run. I set the time it will deliver within reason and something we can both agree to. If we can't come to terms, then the freight doesn't move by me. Hasn't hurt me any. In the example you gave.... they hadn't driven any for the day yet, so I am curious why they "burned up" 3 hrs on the book at the shipper. I never "burn up" any more than 15 minutes at a shipper. If they are stupid enough to hit the ON DUTY button and start the clock and burn up that 3 hrs, then they deserve what they get.

 

Yes Good drivers should be rewarded for their safe driving and decision making. But until then we are obliged to follow the rules or pay the consequences if caught breaking the rules. I never have logged 100% legal on paper logs or e logs. Doesn't make it right, but I know the consequences of doing so. That's what laws are for even though. Most laws are now to appease the special interest groups. Until we are all willing to stand up against the laws. Not the recording devices. Then we will continue to be divided, and nothing will ever change.

 

ok cowpie how did they get to shippers,had to start clock to drive there?your world is very clearly perfect not everybody is that lucky

 

so in there infinite wisdom the govt decided driving 11 hours with out break is not good,well imagine that