I feel like giving up on drivers :(

foul language..haha...unless you're in log class. Thank you very much for your thinking of me after I thought of you and you thought back and now you're thinkin I'm a lunatic because I'm thinking out of my ### instead of me thinking about the thought that it's bedtime for you and you want to have pleasant thoughts so I'll shut my trap , think of you thinking of me and.... sweet dreams !!!!!!

 

I've done the same thing. I said i would run a Monday through Friday run. " No paying auto freight" Then they told me I needed to run Saturday a couple of days later. They were obviously being dishonest to get somebody into the drivers seat. I told them to stick it. So I was being honest both times

 

LogsRus--all people dont learn the same. Hang in there and maybe you can show him another way of doin things or explain it differently. All in all--you really dont learn unless you really screw up. Sometimes--we are just too tired to log it right! LOL Logs was the easy part to me i think==ya i screwed up many times but you learn when you have to do the same log over and over again. Some people just need a different explanation of it. Keep up the good work! Hang in there!!!

 

I read with interest the challenge that you have teaching some drivers how to do their logbooks correctly. I am a relief driver for a trucking company on a dedicated run (two nights per week) and I have 20+ years of teaching experience as a college professor (forestry). You may, or may not, be aware of the three predominant ways in which people learn (each of us is generally a stronger learner in one of the three ways):

verbal learners: They learn by being talked to, receiving oral directions. They typically make excellent college students...most college courses are directed to auditory learners through the lecture method. They use phrases such as:

1. Tell me word for word…
2. Let’s talk later.
3. The word you’re looking for is…
4. I hear you but I’m not sure I agree.
5. Let me spell it out for you.
6. In other words…

visual learners: They learn by reading or looking at pictures.

1. Let’s look at it differently.
2. See how this works for you.
3. I can’t quite picture it.
4. Let’s draw a diagram or map.
5. I’d like to get a different perspective.
6. I never forget a face.

tactile learners: They learn by doing...that is they must get their hands involved in the learning. They use phrases such as:

1. That feels right to me.
2. I can’t get a grip on this…
3. Stay in touch.
4. Get in touch with…
5. That doesn’t sit right with me.
6. I have good feelings about this.
7. My gut is telling me…
8. I follow your drift.

So I guess I would suggest the development of three learning modes for teaching drivers how to keep their logbooks OR one method which incorporates all three learning styles (preferred, I believe)...I know, it is a lot of work. My guess is that the majority of truckers are tactile learners (particularly those who are having a hard time learning from either verbal or visual instruction.

 

If they had laptops & a logging program on it it's hard to screw logs up.then again they would have to figure out how to use it. ok maby not a good idea?some people just don't get it.

 

This was very informational for me. I am looking at a few logs from one of my drivers and I am hoping that you can help me understand how to tell him that he did not do the split correctly.

Day 1- starting at midnight he is in sleeper from 12am-10:15am. Then he drops down to On duty not driving from 10:15am-10:30am then up to driving from 10:30am-3:00pm. He then goes to line 1 off duty from 3pm-3:30pm and then to sleeper berth from 3:30pm-5pm. Driver then begins driving at 5pm-8:45pm and goes on duty not driving for 15 min for fuel then back driving from 9pm-12:15am on Day 2.

Day 2- at 12:15am to 1am driver is off duty. from 1am-4:45pm driver is in sleeper berth. At 4:45pm driver goes on duty not driving for 15 min. from 5pm-midnight driver is driving.

( I hope that wasn't too confusing) My log checker program is saying that he has a violation or 11 hour driving at 11:45pm on Day 1 for.25 hours and a 11 hour violation at 12:00am for .25 hours.

Your info would be greatly appreciated. I have only been doing this job (log manager) for less than a year, and this is the most confusing thing.

Thank you!

 

The issue I have is that the rules work on paper, and I know how to log every thing but I've found that the rules just don't work in the real world. If I could get shippers and receivers to work with my schedule then sure, no problem I can log it leagal... easy! But when you have to deal with unexpected delays do to traffic, weather, road closures (think 35w) or family emergences it comes down to do I want to be ware I am expected and worry about the repercussions later, or let the people who rely upon me down and stay legal? The other issue is how do I get through to my dispatcher who has 80 trucks to manage the exact situation I am in without him constantly figuring me as out of hours? On my daily check calls I need to send in how many hour I will have after emtpy, but if I say 3 it could be 3 of 11, 3 of 14, or 3 of 70 and each situation can be radicly different then the other.

 

I believe that the new drivers are frightened when they figure out the've been shafted and won't have a day or night off for a week. and it doesn't look like they will ever run out of hours. Got it. Somebody fast talked them into the job then they start adding up the numbers.