Older trucks still going into CA ?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by 8x8, May 15, 2013.

  1. 8x8

    8x8 Light Load Member

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    I read from another forum thread that some guys with old trucks are still going in & out of CA
    without any problems so far !!! anybody have any input on this, I was looking at running biodiesel
    to burn clean to enter Ca, I know at some point the will enforcement
    anyone with knowledge appreciate input

    I know if run bio / WVO / propane and older truck would burn clean, obviously it doesn't meet 07 10 engines
    ERG DPF in equipment

    anyone know if there is fine or its amount if court ?
     
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  3. CDL1968

    CDL1968 Medium Load Member

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    I don't know about alternative fuels, but I see a lot old and even classic trucks running in and out CA all the time.
     
  4. Semi Crazy

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    What are gonna do, flip on the propane switch if they want to do a snap idle test on ya?
     
  5. Allow Me.

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    So many trucks in Ca. and enforcement is spotty.
     
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  6. 8x8

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    My plan is to run WVO as much possible anyway, but loosely thinking about secondary tank just for bio & maybe supplement with propane while in CA / ports scales etc, I know it will burn really clean
     
  7. SemperFiServices

    SemperFiServices Medium Load Member

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    I live in the God forsaken state, and can say that yeah I'm surprised to see some of the out AND instate rigs on the roads. Old, beat up tractors with mismatched panels blowing coal LOL, but no one stops them. We all know it's a crock of **** to begin with, but thankfully it really isn't strongly enforced. I know all the big fleets in state are either buying newer (2008 and above) or paying the rediculous $15-20k for a DPF retrofit. The worst part about this whole deal is that the CARB study was done by some lying ####### who bought his PHONY college degree on line from a guy who fled the country. YET Commufornia still lets his bullcrap word stand. It's all a revenue stream, and I personally hope the trucking industry cripples this #### stupid state, but that'll never happen, too many big compnaies with new fleets will always make a buck out here while the O/O is forced outta business. I currently run a 1996 international 9600 because it's good til 2016 and affordable. It blows NO smoke, runs good, and the N14 only leaks a gallon every 5000 miles LOL. But if it lasts til then (970k with no proof of inframe) I will have to buy a 2008 or newer tractor to stay alive. I hate this #### state!
     
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  8. SemperFiServices

    SemperFiServices Medium Load Member

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    I even once thought about starting a transfer yard, basically you drop your non-compliant tractor load in AZ and I get a compliant tractor to take it to it's destination in Ca, but between the EPA's lack of enforcement (not complaining there- life as a trucker is hard enough) and the Swifts, Schiender, and JB Hunts of the industry running en mass, it ain't even worth it to try.
     
  9. 8x8

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    Thanks that re enforcing what I have heard from others, so if I do blow smoke and until they enforce fine etc, I'll plan to run CA when I have to
     
  10. Ranger Bob

    Ranger Bob Light Load Member

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    It does not matter what kind of fuel you burn short of NatGas, diesel is diesel no matter what you blend it with of inject into it. What matters to the CARB clowns is the year of the motor. I live here and still run my 2001 DD 60 in and out all the time. Rates are way to low and my truck is in too good of shape to justify a retro-fit that will reduce performance and mpg's or upgrade to an unreliable complaint motor year. I don't worry about it as I don't service any port facilities and rarely go south of L.A. where you stand a much better chance of getting checked. I do run a lot at night and have an APU. IMO the majority of trucks running out here are non compliant but they are still running everyday. CARB really doesn't have the funding or manpower to do more than roving spot enforcements and monitor port facilites. They depend on scaring you into tattling on yourself then they fine you.....LOL, I just treat them like the government does us......LIE YOUR TEETH OFF AND THEN IF YOU GET CAUGHT, OFFER A FAKE HEARTFELT APOLOGY!!
     
  11. 8x8

    8x8 Light Load Member

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    It's easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission.

    Funny think up here in ND people are pulling off the EGR DEF's, MPG poor reliability, more power etc.
    Used run 12.7 DD60 flat bed always was in the 5.5 - 6.5 mpg range
    Been running EGR Cats & Cummins last 5 years even empty ( gross 65k winch oilfield trailer ) never seen better than 3.5 MPG
     
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