HOS regulations

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  1. Pop

    Pop Light Load Member

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    Hopefully someone can enlighten me on the HOS regulations?
    I'm driving for a local company, I punch a time clock and do not go further than a 100 air-mile Radius.
    So I am not required to do a logbook!
    Yesterday; I worked a total of 14 hours. I drove the truck for about 8 or 9 of those hours.
    The remaining time was spent on duty, but performing work other than driving. (eg) Loading, unloading, driving a forklift.
    So am I cover by the 16-Hour Short-Haul Exception?
    Or did I break the rules?
    I want to do things right and I know you guys can help me with this one! :yes2557:
     
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  3. Sublime

    Sublime Road Train Member

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    First of all you can only use the 16-hr exemption once every seven days, unless you've just gotten a 34-hr restart. A driver using the 100-mile exemption can only work 12 hrs on a time card but if he goes beyond 12 he can work a 14-hr shift by switching to a log book. Since all your driving was first, you could stay on duty doing anything as long as you like but you can't drive again until you get 10 consecutive hrs off-duty.
     
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  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    ...and again, since you worked beyond the 12th hour, you need to submit a log book page for that day.

    The FMCSA is concerned with driving time...NOT on duty time. The reason for the exemption is because it would be nearly impossible to drive in excess of 11 hours within that 12 hour work day when you start & stop each day at the same location, especially after factoring in your on-duty-not-driving time for loading, unloading, fueling, paperwork, and vehicle inspections. Once you have exceeded the 12 hour work day, you need to account for how your time was spent to ensure that you did not exceed the 11 hours of drive time allowed under the regulations. The 100-air-mile exemption only exempts you from having to keep the record of duty status...it does NOT exempt you from the HOS regulations. On the days which you do not qualify for the exemption, you need to fill out a log book page.

    As for the 16 hour exception, that allows a person who normally returns to their normal work reporting location (i.e. terminal) each day an extra couple hours to make it back if he gets delayed....such as a wreck has the road shut down, a mechanical breakdown has you waiting on a repair, or a delay at a shipper or receiver. They allow those 2 extra hours so that you aren't stuck in a motel room 30 minutes from home. HOWEVER, in order to use that exception, you had to start & stop every day from the same location for the entire week before you claim the exception (can't remember off the top of my head if it is 5 days or 7...but either way, it's a typical full work week. Google it yourself if you really want to know), and you can only use that once per week. So, if you need those extra 2 hours to get home on Tuesday, you can't use it again on Friday to get yourself home. However, if you DON'T use those extra 2 hours on Tuesday and instead get a motel room, you STILL lose the ability to use the 16 hour exception on Friday if you need it because you haven't started & stopped at the same location for the previous week.
     
  5. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    BTW, if you work more than 12 hours, you do need to submit a log for that day AND you will need to show logs for everything up to your next re-set. No matter what, if you work more than 70 hours (including the 14 you worked today) you will be in violation if you drive after the 70th hour.
     
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  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Wrong. You ONLY need the log book page for the day you do not meet the exemption. If you work 13 hours today, you need to submit a log book page for today. If you only work 8 hours tomorrow, you will not need to fill out a log book tomorrow. You are ONLY are required to fill out a record of duty status for the days which you do not meet the requisites of the 100-air-mile exemption.
     
  7. CondoCruiser

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    I think this covers it all.






     
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  8. Sublime

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    Wrongo. Just the day you go over.
     
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