How do you log a 15 min restroom stop?

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  1. Palazon

    Palazon Road Train Member

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    I often don't log a pee break if I'm on paper logs. It's helps keep my average speed within company limits (IE: log 51mph in OR/CA, etc). I occasionally have to add 15 min to the drive line to stay within those limits otherwise. My last company didn't care, but I think my new job does (IDC).
     
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  3. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    In other words, you falsify your logs. Here's a tip for you: Cops these days have computers in their cars, and they will punch in the towns you stopped in along the way. If they notice that every leg of your trip has the exact same average speed, whether you were on the interstate or 2 lanes and without regard to traffic or weather conditions, they can see that you haven't accurately logged your driving time. Now they start digging....fuel receipts...BOL's....even fuel rewards cards have been used....and they look to see if time stamps are even remotely close. Even if your fuel receipt doesn't have a time stamp printed on it, during an audit if you used a company-issued fuel card, the company has the time stamp record of when that transaction occurred. Have an incident and cell phone records will be subpoenaed and matched up to your logs....especially once the lawyers see the 64mph pattern to your logging.

    That might have been the way to do it years ago....it is how I was "taught" as well when I started out....but times and technology have changed considerably over the past several years.

    No, the right technique is to show driving time for the time you actually spend driving, to show on-duty-not-driving time for the time you spend on-duty-not-driving, to show sleeper berth time for the time you spend in the sleeper berth, and to show off-duty time for off-duty activities.

    I log it as I do it. Period. People complain about not getting paid for all of the work they are doing, but when the company looks at your log book, you're averaging a pretty decent hourly wage for the hours you are claiming to have worked....so why should they pay you more? Take a stand. Log it legal.

    Besides, the more hours I burn through during the week, the easier it is for me to have the entire weekend off. If I get a phone call on Friday wanting me to work Saturday, but I'm going to have 65-70 hours in by the time I get home on Friday, that's the end of the conversation. I CANNOT work on Saturday, so I get the weekend off with no questions asked and they don't call me back later trying to get me to work.

    Off-duty....unless it is a company-required pee break into a cup at a medical facility. Oops...that was more than 3 words. Guess you can't.:biggrin_25522:
     
  4. RickG

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    That's right . FMCSA auditors use ProMiles software to check driving time between duty status changes . Say you have a delay in traffic and average only 50 mph before stopping for fuel a couple of hours before stopping . Then you stop 2 hours later and log your hours showing a 64 mph average . Your time between the fuel stop and final stop will be less than the required time shown by ProMiles .
     
  5. crb

    crb Road Train Member

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    If you simply stop to pee its off duty.
    If its a whiz quiz it is on duty
    If you perform work related function during pee break. Its on duty. I don't log on duty if I simply walk down one side and check pins. I usually walk dowm passenger side on the way to the facilities, and driver's side on the way back. Check that pins aren't pulled and look for anything that sticks out as I pass by I.e blown tire, placard needing attention, etc. Should I technically log my stops as on duty? Yes.
     
  6. TripleSix

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    OFF DUTY was sufficient. Anything more than that will just serve to confuse the rookies.
     
  7. RickG

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    Drivers are required to have written permission to take an off duty lunch break . Does a driver need written permission to pee off duty ?
     
  8. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    No. I hereby give you permission to feed your face and log off duty. And I hereby give you permission to pee on duty driving too. If you have to shake it more than 3 times, log it OFF DUTY driving until the final shake.
     
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  9. Crazy_Aardvark

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    If your not getting paid to pee then log it as off diuty Line 1. If your not getting paid to pooh, log it as sleeper berth line 2. LOL This makes tracking your bowel and bladder habits much easier.
     
  10. BoyWander

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    Not in MI, I go exactly 60mph in MI and I didn't say I averaged my time every day. In fact, most of the time spent on my route is spent in places where I can go only the speed limit or under, being governed at 65.

    My carrier goes through my logs, and a couple of times I have been marked as averaging too fast on the speed, my mistake.
    The company has e-logs of their company trucks, and their turnover rate is disgusting. My boss leases on there, and no e-logs, but they said they were going to put e-logs in O/O trucks this year, and when that happens, I'm out. I'd hardly ever get home on the route I run. I'd have to violate it to get any kind of home time at all, even for a 34 reset. With e-logs, I wouldn't be able to get the reset. 3,600 miles a week.
     
  11. RickG

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    And your safety department accepts a truck governed at 65 mph averaging 64 mph ? Before we had e-logs QC would say a driver was in violation if he averaged over 60 mph . I've gotten violation notices for averaging 60.5 mph . Even after my truck was governed to 65 mph to run Canada they still said I was speeding if I averaged over 60 . I'd just sign the violation and note "You know dang well my truck is governed at 65. "
     
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