KW AG-400 bag replacement

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  1. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Anyone ever do this without using a fork lift or some huge jack?
    I purchased 8 new bags last Jan but haven't had the funds to replace them (yet) since the shops seem to charge $125/bag to replace them. That's over $1k...

    Mine were getting rough looking but Saturday I discovered an air leak when working on the service chambers and saw this:

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    It's actually leaking out the rubber (not the base).
    Fortunately I do not have aluminum brackets..they are steel on the bags and steel on the rig.

    I'd like to try and do this myself as it seems or appears straight forward enough but is it possible?

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  3. truckmechanic

    truckmechanic Medium Load Member

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    Disconnect the leveling valve and raise the truck as high as it will go support the frame with jackstands and then let the air out of the bags with the valve. Sometimes you have to unbolt the lower shock mounts.
     
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  4. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Thats kinda the idea I was thinking. I dont have jackstands that robust here at home of course.
    The shocks are less than 2yrs old, so they shouldnt be too rusted in place. The last ones had to be torched off.
     
  5. truckmechanic

    truckmechanic Medium Load Member

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    Ive had luck with plugging the air supply to each bag and raising it up and changing each bag one at a time,no jack stands you can use blocks between the axle and axle stop
     
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  6. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Last march i used a blower nozzle on one bag, a helper and was able to replace all 4 bags using on bag to lift the frame enough to get the others out.


    ETA:

    Use a rubber tip blower nozzle.
     
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  7. BullDoggin

    BullDoggin Light Load Member

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    No better way to do it! Even safer than jackstands.
     
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  8. billandlori

    billandlori Medium Load Member

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    I have ran the front drive axle up on blocks to change the rear bags, the run the rear drive on blocks to change the fronts. You might need the axle interlock engaged depending on how big your blocks are.

    Bill
     
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  9. Bigfoot62

    Bigfoot62 Light Load Member

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    Another reason for disconnecting the leveling valve is that you will have to pick it up off of the blocks. ;)
    Same here.
    Not sure on the AG400, but on my AG100, I left the brackets on the truck. Much easier unbolting it from the air bag than the frame.
    Be sure to use thread sealant on the air fittings.

    Another tip: I collapse the air bag in a vise, then tie it off with hay string. Makes it real easy to slip into place. :D
     
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  10. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Hanadarko,an alternative way off doing it:
    Dump the air from the bags.
    Tie off all the airbags you want to replace on the same axle.
    Then raise the airsuspension.
    On a bobtail you should have no problem raising it.

    I have also in the past used a block between the chassis and the axle.

    And then there is the log method.
    Raise the truck as high as it goes.
    Measure the distance between the chassis and the ground.
    Cut 2 logs out off a tree.
    Put then at the back 2 corners off the chassis.
    You do need a tree that you can cut :biggrin_25520:
     
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  11. kwforage

    kwforage Road Train Member

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    I have done the same. It also works for changing tires when I don't have a jack around.
     
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