Wisconsin trucker jailed on gun charges in western New York

more fuel for the dot inspection fire. Im surprised this didn't make the headlines @ fox news ?

 

It won't...the NRA won't back him because of the illegal magazines and they were loaded...he broke the law even though he didn't have to, if his mags were 7 round mags and were properly stored and unloaded and they put him in jail...then things would be very different.

If not for the magazine capacity and them being loaded....there are plenty of lawyers who would love to get their name on that case...its a surefire high publicity win.

I really wish he hadn't had the magazines and they were unloaded and properly stored...I'd like to see NY get forced to comply with reasonable right to carry.

 

no such thing as a reasonable right to carry
anybody carries is already unreasonable
enough idiots already in the world

 

That's the great thing about Freedom....you're free to have your opinion...and those that choose to do so...are free to carry.

Nothing unreasonable about it...

I do agree, there are way too many idiots in this world...but that argument doesn't hold water as a reason for not carrying...as a matter of fact, it could just as easily be used as a good argument in favor of carrying.

 

Congratulations, you have an opinion. That is worth exactly what we paid for it.

Freedom, is your right to not carry, and my right to carry (if I so choose).

 

Surely, this must be toungue-in-cheek.

I can't fathom that one would rely on the police for protection, especially after the Supreme Court has ruled that the police have no obligation to protect anybody (Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0 )

Then, of course, there's this little bit of legal code, taken from The Bill of Rights:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." (emphasis mine, of course... though, I suspect that if the Founding Fathers had been able to glimpse forward to today, they would have added it, themselves.)

Seems to me that the Wisconsin driver has had a very basic right violated.

 

I assure you, its not. He firmly believes what he has said. That is his right, as well as yours and mine.

It is a framework for the Government to follow. The states are allowed to make "reasonable" demands of their citizens regarding the implementation and regulation of these Constitution rights.
If you don't like the "reasonable" demands in the state in which you live, you have the right to move to another state. Where you can appreciate the demands made of you as a citizen.

 

My rights pre-date the Constitution, your too. I have a natural right to self preservation, I'll grant you that the right isn't generally recognized by most levels of government, but the right is there and self evident. It is ironic that the very system established to ensure my self evident, natural rights, is also the entity most likely to tread on those rights, but that's the situation we're in. The cure is much worse than the disease.

 

I am right there with you. I firmly believe in self defense, by whatever means necessary and legal. Some, like Pete, have other opinions.

 

I can agree with this statement as long as the "and legal" part is dropped. That is where we are being defeated, we were raised to respect the laws, but that was in a time when laws, with some obvious exceptions, more closely followed right and wrong, now legal and illegal have very little to do with right and wrong. "Law abiding citizen" is being thrown around a lot lately, I can't say that I am one anymore with all the little petty laws floating around out there. When someone uses that term in the context of gun possession, I cringe a little knowing that we are all criminals, we just haven't had all those little silly laws enforced yet. I would imagine if the IRS wanted to pour it to anyone, they could find something in those mountains of code to beat a person over the head with.