New to log books. have a few questions

Well you cannot use the same log sheet for more than one day. However if you are going to be home the next day, than you can tell them that you are a local driver and that your paperwork is in the office. I have done this! I am usually a local driver, but make a trip once a week or so out to nj. Yes the legal way to run it is to leave at 3, drive the 8 hours and wait until 900 or 10 hours from when you park. If they get there at 3:00 to unload you and it takes 8 hours to get there, then why not wait until 6:00 or 7:00 to leave. Then once you are unloaded maybe you have a couple of hours left to drive part way back!

 

Off duty log: Yes you can use one log sheet to fill out all the days off duty, but they must be off duty logs (no line 2,3 or 4 on it) to do this.

So you must be home for the full 24 hour period of the log grid and then in the remark section state the date range you are off

So if you are off from 12-1 to 12-10 put this in the remark section so DOT understands exactly the days you were off (and your log auditor:biggrin_255)



Your run yes you will need a full 10 hours to drive back. Keep in mind the time loading/unloading is on line 4 however while they are loading you can go to the sleeper if they let you, if they don't it's all on line 4.

However if you was to split break (not thinking you would be able to) you would need a 2 hour break during that 14 hour period.

Read my sticky threads and my most recent discussion about split breaking and the 11 & 14.



Are you driving within 100 miles and no more?

 

The off duty log issue: You can fill out one log sheet as long as you are "off duty" Off duty means you are not on the truck and you are free to do as you please. You must be off duty the 24 hour period. So if I drive home today and get there # 1:00 pm, then my log for today will be a "real" log. The first day off is tomorrow. Then in the remark section write the date range you are off " example 12-18 to 12-23, the city & state and write off duty.
Remember to sign the log, put the date in the date area and put your employee #/driver id code. Draw your off duty line for a full 24 hour period.

YOu can not fill out one log sheet for more than one day if it has any line 2,3 or 4 on it. IT MUST BE OFF DUTY from the scheduled time on your log sheet (most are midnight to midnight, so the first day you spent at home from midnight to midnight is when you actually can start that one log for multiple days).


Now for your run: It looks to me that you will need to take a full 10 hour break to make the run back. Now you might possibly be able to split to spend less time at the customer, however you would only get 3 hours down the road and need your next break. This would have to be thought out a little more and if you could actually do the 10 hour break and log what actually happens on your run and e-mail me a picture of your logs, I could see how it could be done different and what you are doing incorrectly..

Tell me this run isn't in Huntsville, IN?

 

Make sure you do not work more than 14 hours per day

 

You can work as many hours as you want, you just can't drive after 14 hours. For example you could have 14 hours on line 3 and 4 when you arrive at the recievers. You can spend more time unloading giving you a total say 16 hours. Your 10 hour break would begin at the end of your unloading time.

 

Lets make sure this is clear (no pun intended here).

If you start working (lines 3 or 4) that starts the 14 hour clock.
So say u start line 4 # 7:00 am to do a pre-trip, your 14 hour clock will be up # 9:00 pm. Now between 7:00 am & 9:00 pm you can not DRIVE (line 3) over 11 hours. Now once you get to 9:00 pm you can be on line 4 all you want. Fuel, load/unload, etc. You can not DRIVE after that time & after that you must have a 10 hour break or a proper split break.