Carb truck maintenance costs & downtime
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by double yellow, Jun 15, 2013.
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Would it have mattered?
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Unfortunately I live in CA, so carb is something with which l have to deal.
I hear SCR engines get better mpg than just egr/dpf -- any truth?
To be honest I'm shocked at the prices people are asking for used trucks. My company's lease partner offers 450,000-mile t660's for 2000/month for 36months plus a 13,000 residual & 1500 downpayment. Considering similar trucks run 65,000 -- they're basically charging 20% interest in a time with ultra-low inflation. Even 65,000 seems like a lot -- paying almost half what a new fleet-spec cascadia runs, all for the privilege of driving a half worn-out truck...
Thanks, so what would your back-of-envelope cpm figure be for a used carb-truck? 15cpm? 18? 20? -
I think with a carb truck there is no way to know. Some seem to do ok and others can be a nightmare. Some mechanics are not very good troubleshooters, and the new trucks are very complicated.
You may be able to find some information somewhere on fleet averages.
You might consider leasing a truck from Ryder. I was leased to a company that leased Ryder trucks. That way, you might be able to switch trucks if yours developed major issues. I don't know if this would make sense for you.
OK. Here is my guess. Maintenance for a used carb truck: $ .16/mile.
I don't have personal experience with new emission trucks, but I try to keep up with things. Maybe they are not so terrible. But I would expect to have some trouble.
Good luck. -
Voondabahh!! YA? ( my german is rusty )
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I would say lone ranger is darn close. Most folks I talk to are spending an extra 2-3 grand a year on maint. issues with an egr truck depending on what goes out when......what kills you is when you lose 2 or 3 componenets in the same month or two.
I say you need an extra 5k a year put aside for downtime as well so you might want to add that to your calculations. Given that I think the 16-18 cpm range is accurate. At least you will have money set aside that you can build on and hopefully not get a truck that was somebody elses nightmare!! Problem is this is all money that can never be recovered once it is spent having to deal with this garbage. -
Ok while on the subject...... help me out......
I run low annual miles with an old truck. The short hops and the enviroment dictate a severe duty schedule...I get that.... but if I used an OTR formula to calculate cpm the number would be ridicules because of the low miles operated. I don't get the miles to dilute the cpm.
And I have stranded costs...like my 5th wheel. Just put a new plate and slide on ( had to, for safety ) but all of that will out live the truck so i'll never recover the cost through longevity. ( got a sweet deal too )
IMO the hour meter is my only choice........whatcha think?? -
Do you idle the truck a lot? About the only time I'd switch to an hour meter schedule.
ETA:
By idle, I mean do you run a PTO of sorts.Last edited: Jun 16, 2013
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I'm guessing you are doing either drayage, highway or oilfield work , none of which I am familiar with
but if you were to figure out your cost per running hour then you can come with a number. If you figure OTR 100,000 miles a year X .16 = 16,000 a year to maint. costs, so how many running hours for you would equal $16,000.Last edited: Jun 16, 2013
chalupa Thanks this. -
Uhm no Mn...but thanks.. Ok Bob, Your saying I need to have a standard formula so I can compare my costs vs industry standards......well I've spent 35k over the last 27 months in all maint. , Some elective, some redoo's from previous owner and some from new part failure and some mandatory like the 5th wheel. I just couldn't rebuild it......call me old school plus I read in the latest trucker that a family is dead because of a disconnect.
Rehashing the numbers to OTR formula my cpm in maint is .4375 because there is no hub to dilute with. ( very litttle ) ...all of this with fuel puts me at .6895 a hub mile operated before I get anything. There is no truck payment, salary or taxes in that number.
How does that stack up to OTR? Looks high to me.
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