What to expect with your trainer/ bulk division.

Twicebit · Jun 10, 2013

Some of the answers to my questions don't fit in with the title of this thread. Maybe you could answer them in your book though!?

wsyrob · Jun 10, 2013

Twicebit said: ↑

As well, I'm guessing you don't make that much extra when you're training, as when you're just running Solo. Yes, you're paid some extra somehow, but that's probably offset by less miles run. I know you run really hard when you're by yourself, maximizing your CPM. I'd think with a Trainee on board, you wouldn't run so hard, because as you said in another post, you're not Teaming with the Trainee. Does this mean the Trainee is the one who is doing most or all of the driving? If that's so, I'd think things would slow down a bit.
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I would think even doing training the right way from the jump seat that you could run more miles than a solo. You could essentially drive 13.75 hours per day as opposed to 11 solo. Its beneficial for a trainee to observe his trainer driving so splitting the driving would be a good way to go.

Twicebit · Jun 11, 2013

wsyrob said: ↑

I would think even doing training the right way from the jump seat that you could run more miles than a solo. You could essentially drive 13.75 hours per day as opposed to 11 solo. Its beneficial for a trainee to observe his trainer driving so splitting the driving would be a good way to go.
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Now this I did not know; learning lots here! Thanks

davey86 · Jun 11, 2013

I have been driving for schneider for 3 months with wife.
I was sent a email about tanker hiring.

ethos · Jun 11, 2013

wsyrob said: ↑

I would think even doing training the right way from the jump seat that you could run more miles than a solo. You could essentially drive 13.75 hours per day as opposed to 11 solo. Its beneficial for a trainee to observe his trainer driving so splitting the driving would be a good way to go.
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Rob, you lose time as a trainer. Everything takes longer. Pre-trips take twice as long. It takes you or I a few minutes to pull out of the hole and get on the highway. It takes them at least 5-7. Every turn is sloooowww. Let's not forget backing. If you think you will drive more miles as a trainer you will be sadly mistaken.

Also, they have to run their own trip plan. Once they go solo there will be no more "extra" driving hours available.

ethos · Jun 11, 2013

Twicebit said: ↑

It would be great to hear about some of the most interesting Trainee experiences you've had, ethos, whether fearful experiences or exhilarating - maybe when a Trainee really grasped something you'd been trying to get them to see, and then while still on the truck with you, went on to really do something right! Maybe how many Trainees have you trained and in how many years? How many are still driving with SNBC? Do you keep in pretty good contact with former Trainees? Do they call you a lot asking questions once they're running on their own, or not?

As well, I'm guessing you don't make that much extra when you're training, as when you're just running Solo. Yes, you're paid some extra somehow, but that's probably offset by less miles run. I know you run really hard when you're by yourself, maximizing your CPM. I'd think with a Trainee on board, you wouldn't run so hard, because as you said in another post, you're not Teaming with the Trainee. Does this mean the Trainee is the one who is doing most or all of the driving? If that's so, I'd think things would slow down a bit.

Why do you Train? I think I know, but it would be great for us to hear from you!

Just some ideas...
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Well I don't tell stories about my trainees as it would be unfair. Training is when your supposed to make the dumb mistakes. I didn't laugh at them then and I won't now. But I will say that I haven't had too many scary situations. They all grasp it eventually and I have examples but they would make boring reading.

I train because I enjoy it. I like the fact that I get to make a contribution to the future of the company. I like the extra respect that I get for being a trainer, I won't lie it feels good.

Most of them call me a few times and then it slowly tapers off. I try to train as completely as I can but of course they forget things or maybe we never encountered something or maybe I forgot to tell them something. They call for all types of reasons but I tell them to call me before they mess something up.

Training takes a lot of patience and a lot of talking. I talk constantly and never let a learning situation pass.
I can't say what gives people the most trouble as everyone is different but if pressed I would say backing. The correction I make the most is not looking in the mirrors, I correct that multiple times every day. I like to put my hat so that's it's blocking the passenger mirror and see how long it takes them to realize it. I also let people get lost, it's going to happen eventually anyway. At least with me they can have help.

I don't really keep stats on my students so I can't tell you how many or if they are still with the company or not. Students drive 95% of the time on my truck.

wsyrob · Jun 13, 2013

ethos said: ↑

Rob, you lose time as a trainer. Everything takes longer. Pre-trips take twice as long. It takes you or I a few minutes to pull out of the hole and get on the highway. It takes them at least 5-7. Every turn is sloooowww. Let's not forget backing. If you think you will drive more miles as a trainer you will be sadly mistaken.

Also, they have to run their own trip plan. Once they go solo there will be no more "extra" driving hours available.
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I am speaking from my experience at Superior. I was with trainers for 6 weeks. Honestly 10 days sounds a little short. Yes I was slower but we always split the driving. It wasn't OTR except for 1 week but we did some out and back runs that would have required a solo to take a 10.

ethos · Jun 13, 2013

I agree, I wish our training time was longer but most guys do get it after 10 days and if they dont they can get additional time. By the way this message brought to you from Winston-Salem.

Smaggs · Jun 14, 2013

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Smaggs, tried to pm you but you have it disabled or something. If you're near Aliquippa PA call Andrews Logistics. I've been pulling tanks with them out of Houston and Dallas for a few months and they turned out to be all they claimed to be and more. They trained me as well since I didn't (and still don't have much) tanker experience. No long haul.

My apologies ethos for butting in to your thread.
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I fixed it. I didn't know my messages were disabled. Had to hunt for that setting! Thanks!

kkubitz · Jun 19, 2013

Ethos - Thanks for this thread. You have helped me make a very difficult decision, to put my app in with SNI and see what happens.

Do your Qualcomms have turn by turn navigation? Thanks

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