Are EOBR's creating a "new" new breed

You can get away with it using a Fuelman or CFN card at any "Cardlock" station....But if any LEO wants to be picky and check your Fuel/Miles log......Which you have to log under IFTA....You'll get busted...

 

Let me try this again

It's not that complicated. Here's the link.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...?reg=395.8&guidence=y&keyword=shipping papers

 

Lots of carriers have no pride in their equipment. They buy Freightliners with modest specs, do a PM at 20 or 30K, and then sell it after 3 years.

OTOH, carriers that take pride in their equipment inspire drivers to take care of the equipment. Have you ever heard a Western Distributing driver say anything negative about his truck? I didn't think so.

 

Apparently it is complicated for some.

 

Lots of Lease Operators have pride in their used clunkers

 

I'm not a veteran driver but I've driven with paper logs and e-logs. Just got back in the "business" (why quotes? not a business for company drivers). Also was a desk jockey @ a truck stop for five years. Had to listen to old timers' techniques for maintaining many log books, though some swore they ran legal all the time and I believed them.

Used to be you could fudge your logs, of course. If your 14 ran out while you were being loaded or unloaded, well...you actually started the day a little later than you thought and you drove that load faster than you thought and so on, so you still have time to park your rig someplace safe. Dispatchers and bears knew drivers fudged, drivers knew they knew and so on.

Now, your EOBR will let you know exactly how much time you have left, and when you go over your 14 - holy sh*&! It's like having a lit patrol car in your truck. The only way to get around it is to scavenge some of your pretrip time through creative editing, so it makes sense to do a 1/2 hour pretrip.

Even so, you could be sitting at the dock watching your 14 dribble away because the shipper/receiver is busy. I've actually gone to the boss lady and said, "if you don't give me my paperwork in the next ten minutes and send me on my way, I'll be your guest for the next 10 hours." That went over well.

The alternative for bottom feeders is to turn down a second load. By doing so, you forfeit two bits you would have made. The utilities to your house get shut off and your family has to light candles at night. Maybe you miss a house payment. Planners don't care. Shippers and receivers don't care. The computer can't care.

Old salts say, "its yer own darn fault fer working fer crooks!" Newbies say: "We're paying our dues and trying to get on with a better company that requires a minimum of two years of experience." It's a catch-22.

Old salts ask, "why don't you learn ta preplan?" Newbies say: "The routing computer of fate doesn't understand traffic, weather, making wrong turns and other newbie mistakes, slow shippers/receivers, accidents, breakdowns, construction, etc. It is a pitiless, inhuman engine of logic that cannot comprehend illogic."

I'll violate my HOS before I run into a truck stop, or any other place, at 100 mph. But I've also discovered that as the end of your 14 approaches the rules about where you can park your truck become fluid.

What I'd like to know is, can you sign off on your EOBR to give yourself more time? And are there any other ways to get it off your back long enough to find a safe haven?

Newbies: just because your computer says you've violated the HOS doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get a black mark. The way it works is, most big companies "audit" a month of logs on a random basis. So if they don't "audit" the month that you violated HOS, you lucked out.

 

I'd say the latter.... drivers are not craftsmen (craftspeople) any longer worried about what the old hands and peers might thing about them.. they just do whatever it is they want to do and to heck with proper and quality.. "They got theirs"..

 

All systems are set up different . Here's how it works at Quality Carriers . If you run after your hours are up corporate safety gets an immediate notification . They allow very limited use of personal conveyance . If a trucks moves 15 minutes without a driver logged in a notice is sent .
Random audit every month ? QC gets a report from every truck every 4 hours .

 

RickG;

That's how I should have put it because really, there's what my carrier does and what I've heard.

My company gets an immediate notification of what I do as well, but a violation of HOS doesn't go into my personal record unless someone watching me logs it as such or it gets caught in an audit.