dont be this guy

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by hagarcobra, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    He has 52 barrels on there that we can see for sure, on an RGN. If there is anything in them it's not very heavy, I say he has them secured properly and would more than likely do the same myself.
     
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  3. snowman_w900

    snowman_w900 Road Train Member

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    The only I didn't like about this thread was....... The OP has never came back and said how sorry he is for calling the RGN driver a #######. There was nothing wrong with the way he secured the load!

    I bet if you give the OP of this thread a RGN, stepdeck, flatbed or any open deck, he would be lost and prolly spend hours if not days trying to figure out how to secure a load.....hell...better yet , he would be on HERE asking US (the same group hes making fun of) how do I strap down a load of lumber, chain down some hum-vees, load a load of drill pipe, how to get that road grader on and off that RGN without tearing something up, how do I tarp a jet turbine from GE, ect,ect......
     
  4. camels76

    camels76 Light Load Member

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    Dryvan or reefer boys who don't know any better?

     
  5. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    Usually a drum holds 50 gallons. Even if 1 drum had a 14 lb./gal. weightx50gal.=700lbs/drum+50 drums=35k net.
     
  6. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    RGN trailers have height adjustments (if hydraulic) in the front. That's how they lower the front part of the deck to unload. Then there's old Cozad trailers.
     
  7. smf

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    You only need two straps if its over a certain weight or over 10ft, and if it is not touching the pallet in front of it. If its up against the headboard you would only need one strap as long as the wll is in range. If there were spaces in between the pallets where they were not touching you would need to put two straps on each unit if over like 500lbs I think, would have to look it up. At least thats my understanding.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safety-security/safety-initiatives/cargo/cs-manual-chap2.htm
    [h=2]check this section. Section 2.2.3.1[/h]
     
  8. hagarcobra

    hagarcobra Medium Load Member

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    LOL! that's funny.i didn't call him a #######.im not making fun of flatbedders as a group,only this particular load.i pull a stepdeck/rgn every load for the past 9 yrs.about 80% percent of my loads are od/ow.i was trained and drive for the best equipment company in the country and they are very happy with my job performance.i have loaded and hauled dozens of motor graders without your help.i have not posted anything since original post because I have more to do than sit here looking at this thread.are there any more questions you would like anwered?by the way,what is the working load limit on that steel banding?
     
  9. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    Good question. Not very much would be the answer.:biggrin_25525:Depends on the Strapping dims. Point is the load is legally secured. Would it stay on board if he had an accident? Prolly not. That's why load securement is a personal call. Like a old trucker told me once......ya can't have too many straps on.:biggrin_255:
     
  10. hagarcobra

    hagarcobra Medium Load Member

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    load securement is not to be taken lightly. the whole idea is that it doesn't come off.if you don't have it to where it wont come off in an accident,it is not secured. just because a load will ride down the road doesn't make it secure. my point about the steel straps is this;how do you prove to a DOT man that you have met the 80/50/20 rule if you cant prove the working load limit? and if you don't know it,how do you trust it will do the job.remember,peoples lives are on the line if that securement fails
     
  11. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    Actually there is a breaking strenght table.
    ASC Physical Characteristics:

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    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: #ffff99"]Strapping Size:[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: #ffff99"]Feet per Pound:[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: #ffff99"]Average breaking strength:[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: white, colspan: 3"]Regular duty
    [/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]1/2"x .015[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]39.3[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]950[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]1/2"x .020[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]29.4[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]1220[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]1/2"x .023[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]25.6[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]1880[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]5/8"x .020[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]23.6[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]1500[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]5/8"x .023[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]20.5[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]1720[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]3/4"x .015[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]26.2[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]1420[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]3/4"x .020[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]19.6[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]1810[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]3/4"x .023[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]17.1[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]2050[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]3/4"x .028[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]14.1[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]2460[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]

    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD] [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: #ffff99"]Strapping Size:[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: #ffff99"]Feet per Pound:[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: #ffff99"]Average breaking strength:[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: white, colspan: 3"]High Tensile
    AAR marked and rated[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]1/2"x .020[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]29.4[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]1500[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]5/8"x .020[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]23.6[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]1875[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]5/8"x .023[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]20.5[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]2150[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]3/4"x .020[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]19.6[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]2250[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]3/4"x .023[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]17.1[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]2600[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]3/4"x .025[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]15.7[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]2800[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]3/4"x .029[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]13.1[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]3050[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]3/4"x .031[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]12.7[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]3350[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]1 1/4"x .020[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]11.8[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]3825[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]1 1/4"x .025[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]9.4[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]4660[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]1 1/4"x .029[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]8.1[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]5250[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]1 1/4"x .031[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]7.6[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]5500[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]1 1/4"x .044[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]5.3[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]7610[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]2"x .044[/TD]
    [TD="width: 156, bgcolor: white"]3.3[/TD]
    [TD="width: 155, bgcolor: white"]12300[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    Load secure has alot to do with the load of course. You see alot of Lumber trucks with no gut wraps. Or a logger/stringer truck off road w/ no strip wraper when it gets steep. Bad idea! Same goes for Hvy Equipment on an RGN. That's what I'm doing in CA at the moment. I don't want a Dozer rolling up over the Gooose neck into the back of my cab. No Beer for me tonight.
     
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