Forced to use travel time for new HOS break

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Heliophobe, Jun 30, 2013.

  1. Crossroads

    Crossroads Light Load Member

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    What I am saying is regardless of 395.1 (j) if you need to be in a state of readiness to work, (say your barn door swung open) you need to log the time as on-duty. Many drivers make this mistake if their load is delayed at dispatch at their home terminal. Technically you need to be relieved of duty by your motor carrier to log off duty. If you are sitting waiting for your trailer to be loaded so you can leave, that time should be logged as on duty.

    While you can likely get away with it at a warehouse, I don't see it on a ferry, unless yoyu have no responsibility and are going to walk away and take 10 hours off when you dock. As someone else pointed out unless this ferry trip is after 8 hours on duty it would not count anyway.
     
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  3. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    your sitting there, wherever there may be. your going to be with your truck. whatever you may be doing. wether your loaded or empty. your still with your truck.

    your going to be readiness or doing whatever. WHILE you take your break. unless you just walk away somewhere NOT watching your truck.

    the govenment now releives you for 30 minutes. but your still with your truck. if something were to happen. i don't think your going to sit there till break is over. so your still in readiness.

    so, parked somewhere in a parking lot. on the street. or parked on a ferry. bottom line is. your with the truck and the truck isn't moving. that's a good time to take your break. readiness mode or not.
     
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  4. Crossroads

    Crossroads Light Load Member

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    That is your interpretation, however it is not the regulation.
     
  5. Heliophobe

    Heliophobe Bobtail Member

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    Time-wise yes. Pay-wise no.
     
  6. Heliophobe

    Heliophobe Bobtail Member

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    Again, neither the company nor any of the drivers like the new regs. People not taking ferries take a break in the middle of the day,, walk away from the trucks, grab a bite and the day is extended for the same pay. Ferried drivers do the same work in the same time for less pay as a result.
     
  7. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    sure it is. the regulation states we have to take a break.

    and i don't think anyone is walking away from there truck to take a break.
     
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  8. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    don't have a choice in the matter anymore.
     
  9. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Actually, I will walk away from the truck on my break. If I log off duty, I can go down the street to Wal Mart if I want to. I am officially & legally "Off Duty". I will go home for 30 minutes if I want to. Most drivers will park at a truck stop, go inside to the restroom, get a drink & a snack or something. That is leaving the truck. Especially if I go down the street to my house.

    Off duty includes not being at the truck or responsible for the operation &/or control of that vehicle.
     
  10. Heliophobe

    Heliophobe Bobtail Member

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    I am not an otr trucker with fewer break options. There are plenty of stores and restaurants and beaches, etc. ###### straight I want to leave my truck.
     
  11. airforcetoo

    airforcetoo Heavy Load Member

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    Your situation seems to be better than most of us OTR guys ... see what snowwy was saying (or at least my interpretation) was that for us OTR the truck is not only our money bringer it is our home out here ... for instance sometimes I rather just stay in my truck and read than to go and watch TV inside a truck stop or whatever ...that's considered off duty (sleeper berth) for us anyways ... for you the situation may be different ... but regardless of the situation you are the captain of the ship and none of us can tell you when or how to take ure break ... unless your company will put in a new policy then ...
     
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