lowest rpm you can safly idle at Detroit s60 14L

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  1. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Yes i would idle it up.
     
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  3. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    With a Cat, yes I'd idle it up.

    Series 60, I never idle them up, and never had a problem..

     
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  4. 3rd Gen Driver

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    DD S60 MOTORS
    Not sure about the others, but should be about the same.
    High idle rpm= better oil pressure and cylinder pressure
    When you inframe your motor, for the first couple weeks or so,
    you either A. don't idle or, B. idle at atleast 1000rpms. This is to keep
    cylinder pressure up by keeping the rings where they belong. On a broke in motor
    idleing below 900rpms will allow cylinder pressure to drop which allows the rings
    to get "lazy" and wear increases.
     
  5. snowwy

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    i'm curious as to what torque at the rear end of tranny uipon take off has to do with the pump lubrication at an idle.

    no one made any mention of emissions between an engine idling at 600 rpms and a engine running at 1000 rpms.

    i know on cars. if you drop the idle down. you raise the hydrocarbons. which is unburnt fuel. the engine starts to misfire and stumble at the lower idle.
    people were known to richen the air fuel mixture to smooth the idle. which lowered the hydrocarbons but raised the carbon monoxide.

    in other words. lower the idle. pollute the atmosphere more. pretty easy to also not pass emissions back when the test was idle only test.
     
  6. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Normal operating psi under a load for a CAT is 60-70psi. At 700rpms normal slow idle 30-35psi. At 1,000 it ought to be 65psi. That's why you bump a CAT.

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  7. Semi Crazy

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    It's just the big ball bearing input shaft bearing that's spinning with no load. Used to be a day when just splash lubrication was fine for a Roadranger. Tranny will be fine at low idle.



    How did you measure that? I know how, I'm just curious what tool you used. Sounds like it needs to be calibrated.


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  8. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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  9. Richter

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    You can also just ball park the math.

    Microwave @ 700 watt / 12 volts, roughly 58 amps

    Lights, aside from headlights, its not worth the effort. Everything else is LED on min which use practically nothing.

    Laptop pulls 120 watts, /12= approx 10 amps.

    Fridge, aprox 10 amps

    heated blanket 10 amps

    fan, 2 amps

    Now anything A/C uses about 20% more DC power do to the losses in the inverter.

    Either way, i'v had problem with batts dieing while truck was off, but never while at idle. Only time i had trouble at idle was when the alternator was bad. I didn't dare shut my truck off, but then even at top rpm it was outputting only 10 volt. (yes the cat ecm stayed running at only 10 volt) My headlights were dim though.
     
  10. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    i beleive the ecm can go to 9 volts before it dies.

    i worked with a driver once. called up the shop and asked for a new radio in that brand new pete. said the radio just died. and the shop told him no they weren't ordering a new radio. about an hour later he called the shop back up and said the truck died. shop asked him what the dash volt gauge read. and he said 9 volts.

    can you imagine driving around town with no brake lights. idiot never looked at his dash to realize the alternator wasn't putting out.
    needless to say. a new alternator also fixed his radio problem. talk about a happy camper.
     
  11. Gear head

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