Bidding a series of loads from south central Kansas to Great Falls, MT. Crane beams that are 120' long by 5' wide and about 5' tall. One beam per load, total of 10 beams.
We want to use our 48" aluminum flats as dollies. I've seen it done plenty and just wanted some insight from anyone else who has done this before. We will get purpose-built yokes or decks to set on the 5th wheel.
Particular questions I have are:
How much rear overhang will be manageable?
How difficult will maneuvering really be if the k.p. to center of rear axle is around 97' to 103' ballpark, with a spread?
How difficult will it be to keep the trailer track with in a reasonable margin of the truck?
I'm not new to OS moves, but the length and methods here will be new on this. Skills wise, I'm confident I can drag it safely. I'm much more interested in just knowing where I stand on maneuverability and knowing some possible pitfalls in advance to either work to prevent problems or be able to expect and adjust before they get out of hand.
A little advise on using a 48' flat and a front yoke hauling 120' beams, please.
Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by xTHANATOPSISx, Jun 23, 2013.
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Good luck. We have a bridge beam builder around here that ships lots of stuff about that size. For anything over 100' total length, they must use a steerable rear tiller, I was told. Man riding and steering in a cab at the back of the load. Also, they had a long one turn over going around a banked curve in the road, were not using the rear unit . They said being that long a load, going into a short curve, the center of gravity gets so far from the centerline that it gets tipsy, but the rear driver, if used, could keep it in line better.
Glad it is you and not me. -
i've haven't looked that closely but it looks to me like they just sit the things on the trailer. with extra long air lines. stap or chain it down and pull the load with the trailer.
i have no idea on hookup to truck though. lbut the trailer just looks like a regular ole trailer. so your kingpin really wouldn't change, per say.
wouldn't the permits go on something lengthwise for something that long? instead of the typical measurements they might ask for on the shorter long loads????
i know in montana,. they just want permits for anything that takes your overall length past 75 feet.
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I helped a friend with a site move one time using the same method. One turn, straighten out, and drive forward to where the beams would be lifted and set for the new bridge. Each beam was 140-feet long.
The turn was a right-hand, shallow turn around a sign (really, I think the sign could have been removed).
Anyway, in short, the turn radius necessary to move something that long is unimaginably large. The only reason we could get away with simply using a bolster and flatbed to do this site move is because it was a closed down interstate. Each truck needed every bit of space to make the turn.
If you're going down the road, I would highly suggest having a steerable. You could look into an older style steerable that uses cable rather than dropping the cash for a new umbilical or radio-controlled (the older one's work similar to a logging bunk). -
Well, just thinking, I could likely get 6' ahead of the KP, 20' out the rear, making 94' to the rear of the trailer. Ball park the rear axle at 36" forward and its 91' KP to RA. If it pivots at the middle of the spread (like that ever happens) I'd say a best of 86' from KP to the pivot. Thats not too bad, in my mind.
I know it'll take a acre of road to turn. Thats less of my issue at this moment. I really worry more about that mile of beam swinging out the back. If I turn wide enough to make the radius, I don't want to clear every road sign off the far left curb. If the crown of the road shifts the pivot to the lead axle of the spread, it'll be like whipping a school bus around back there.
I'm running a 260wb W900. My father has a 280wb W900. Only other truck would be a guy with a 245wb T600. We'll have front and rear escorts so some blocking at tight turns will be possible. 90% or more of the miles are interstate. Its that last 8% to the delivery point that we don't know that we're sweating.
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They have a deck that hooks to the 5th wheel, and then you have a dolly under the back. That long ,I have seen steerable Dolly's, that are either manually steered or radio controlled . I can't remember the new name.. But savage in salt lake sold to them. They haul anything.. Try calling Savage as they should be able to Give you the new number. Good luck.
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I would do a pole trailer. Bolster on front, and back. I don't have enough info to know what you need. I hauled expandable trailers that stretched to 90 feet. Never seen one longer. 110' concrete bridge beams. Did fine. I think using a 48' is going to be a problem for you.
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