Buying a new truck this week, should i buy new or used?

Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by Basic, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. Calspring

    Calspring Light Load Member

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    I bought the 3yr extended warranty that covers everything. It costs about $10,000 but it covers pretty much everything. It is only three years as that is how long they extended it for heavy duty work, which they consider anything to be with Super B weights. I want to say it is 300,000 miles but would have to look at the paperwork. Which I should because I will run out of miles before time. Over 100,000 in the first 10-11 months

    It is the same price as the Kenworth warranty that I know a guy just purchased for his two trucks.
     
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  3. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Basic,i understand your feelings but you cannot let it get to you.

    The new offers by Kenworth make it clear that you were smart in not rushing in your decision.
     
  4. itsneversafe

    itsneversafe Light Load Member

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    Something wrong there. 9000 hours is half what should be on a 930,000 k truck. Unless it averaged 103 kph every hour it ran!

    5nz isn't a bad engine though. If your unlucky with the Accert they are the easiest and cheapest to reflash the ECM and remove the emission from. Cat parts are pricey but good mechanics abound because so many hd mechanics start in cat machinery and apprentice programs.
     
  5. cariboo_kid

    cariboo_kid Medium Load Member

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    However the lighter truck may be able to carry the full load that the company wants hauled without going overweight, while the heavier one may not. The company often takes a fairly optimistic viewpoint about the average empty weight of the fleet leaving the guys who aren't at the lighter end of the range in a difficult spot.
     
  6. Basic

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    So any truck I've ever driven has a front/rear and interaxle diff. this one has interaxle then a locker which locks up both axles when then the interaxle is in. He offered to split them up for me pre purchase. I can't think of anytime in my driving that it would have really made a difference for me if it works like he says it does. I want to take this truck to the ugliest places I can find. Should I be concerned?

    Ive been following the auto versus manual debates a bit. This one has an eaton 18, which is the only one I've ever really driven for a substantial amount of time. I know guys are saying these autos, especially I shifts are the second coming of trucking. My personal opinion, is that your more engaged in your driving when your shifting the transmission manually. And I'm also worried that I wont have as much control in the mud or ice. But this is my chance to go auto if Im going to do so. What do you guys think?

    Another, these Mack rearends look funky. Should I be scared (lol)? They look nothing like anything Ive ever driven before. I was also expecting there to be beefier leaf springs on the front. theres only 2 layers. should I be concerned?
     
  7. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    What you want is FRONT and REAR Lockers PLUS the DIFF LOCK (Power Divider)
     
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  8. Basic

    Basic Light Load Member

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    I'm not sure thats how they work. The way he explained it to me is that the inter axles needs to be engaged before the front/rear. I'll be honest I've heard of these different configurations but I've never seen them, and never put much thought into it. I'm worried that there might be some complications in splitting them up with these Mack rear ends.

    I apologize to anyone is I sound inexperienced. I figure the only dumb question is the one you don't ask.
     
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  9. Calspring

    Calspring Light Load Member

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    The I-shift/M-drive is considered to be the best automated transmission out there but I wouldn't use them for your application. I would stick with the 18 so you can pick your gears if you are bogged down. The 12 in the M-drive is just too few.

    Yes the Mack rear ends look different, the big advantage they have is they are a bowl so it is much harder for oil to leak out of them. The link has a diagram from an old promo magazine. But it shows the design differences.

    http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/30903-mack-toploaders/?p=180021
     
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  10. Basic

    Basic Light Load Member

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    Don't have permission to view that

    registered same thing, doesn't state why.

    I'm thinking my registration needs to be approved by a moderator.

    From that thread I did notice this

    "we've had several macks with 44 and 50k lb mack rears and the front rear always blows up around 300k miles on a new truck after we put a new rebuilt in they only last 150 to 200k miles. the meritor/rockwell and even eaton rears we have in western stars and macks we have never had to do a rearend job on. and some of them have over 500k miles. the back rears on a mack top loader seem to run longer as much as 700k miles."
     
  11. cariboo_kid

    cariboo_kid Medium Load Member

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    We run t800s with eaton 18 speed autos. When in slippery #### or anywhere else I want to be sure it won't shift at a bad time I just move the selector to manual. In this setting it will not shift unless you tell it to or the rpm is going to put the engine in danger.

    Any time you are driving in auto mode and want to bump it up or down a gear or several you can just tap the button. It quickly becomes very intuitive to drive. The 2013 models didn't have the shift points programmed well IMO and I felt I was being deprived of some of the usefull rpm range of the engine, both for power and jaking. The 2014s seem far superior in this regard and I prefer driving them.
     
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