The new mandatory 30 minute break...

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Scooter Jones, Jul 6, 2013.

  1. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    LOL... I was harassed yesterday by a loose leaf log, as i was shredding it into little pieces and slipping them out the crack in the window one flew back in and fell on the floor on the passenger side. I was leaning over to get it I dropped the rest of the pieces, I then had to search for the rest of them while attempting to maneuver out of the oncoming lane that I had drifted into... THAT was simply harassment plain and simple.
     
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  3. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    How would a paper log cause harassment? Oh wait, I know! An O/O friend of mine with 25 years in the industry was fudging his logs big time a while back.

    Of course, I know none of you do that ;-) Allow me to indulge a little though. He was doing the normal stuff that log cheaters do. Backing up his days, trying hard to remember when he crossed what scale and what not. Which logbook matched for which day, etc. Stuff that none of you guys would know about (wink, wink).

    Anyways, he fixed up his loose leaf logs (last 7 days) all nice and pretty one morning. Straight lines, neat as pin on his form & manner, etc. Got pulled into the Cottonwood, CA scale house for an inspection. He gladly announces to the officer, "I'm so glad you pulled me in, I needed a new window sticker!" Gleaming with confidence as the officer starts to look through his last 7 days. He curiously stops between two pages, flipping back and forth between the same two pages.

    "Driver, I'm having a hard time understanding something here...why does this end of the day log show you stopped in this particular town, yet, your next day log shows you started in a town several hundred miles away?"

    The answer is obvious, however, I'll tell you what he did. He substituted one of the un-fudged logs with the stack of new ones!

    Needless to say, he paid a price. However, you know what? So did all the rest of us on the fleet who have been paying the price for all the cheaters who have gotten busted cheating on their logs at my company. I'd explain in what way, but most of you are smart enough to know how. Besides, I'm too tired and need to go to bed now ;-)

    Ciao!
     
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  4. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Have you read all the posts by "drivers" not understanding the 30 minute rule or not knowing how to recap? If drivers like that couldn't have a CDL there WOULD be a driver shortage.
     
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  5. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    The 30 minute break was costing me 57 dollars a day. I am currently doing a run that pays 57 dollars a round and I could get 5 rounds a day easily but then no time for a break. Then only load trucks between certain times. Since the round was under 150 miles and never left North Dakota and as long as I had been in North Dakota for 7 days prior, I found I could run 150 mile intrastate exemption. Under this exemption, I do not have to show my hours of duty on a long book page there for no need to show a 30 minute break. Sweet, back to making full pay again.
     
  6. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    There you again calling us ''paper loggers'' cheaters...Why do you have a hard on for this FALSE EVIDENCE.??....Your thought process is based on assumption and wanting to go on this ''patriot'' mission..Show me FACTS of this ''cheating''...?

    Show me facts that E-BABYSITTERS are somehow safer and better drivers...??...Until then your statement is null and void with NO FACTS,just assumptions and acquisations...

    You are the reason why the word ''stereotype'' was formed...

    I like reading your material.But i am getting a funny feeling you have alot of ANGER and RESENTMENT running your E-BABYSITTER..I am getting a feeling like this is based solely on JELOUSY and ENVY of us SELF THINKING drivers that do not want to be roped into being a DRONE and treated like a CHILD like so many of you have chosen to do.....?
     
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  7. snowblind

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    if he had been driving 25 years he would not have made such a simple mistake,its very easy to cheat on paper,you would know that if you used them before or really trucked.......just cuz you cheat does NOT make you unsafe
     
  8. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    Very easy to ''cheat'' on E-LOGS too...They do it everyday...:biggrin_25520:
     
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  9. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    landstar8891, I didn't call you a log cheater! I said the stuff that log cheaters do, of course, you have never cheated on your logs.

    My point is that his cheating and the other drivers who have been busted cheating at my company have now created an environment of "harassment" by the DOT sometimes when they log the DOT number of our company into the computer, pulling our drivers in frequently to "check out" the logs.

    Thus, paper log cheaters have made those of us who don't cheat in the company more susceptible to scrutiny.

    For me though, I'm not bothered by them because I proudly display the "THIS VEHICLE EQUIPPED WITH ELECTRONIC LOGS" bright green and black sticker on the side of the truck hood for the weigh master to see in plain view.

    However, the guys who drive where I do who don't have ELOGS get pulled in more frequently. Not to worry though, because all the rest of them will soon have them in their trucks too :) Then, like me, they'll be some of the safest truck drivers on the road!!! LOL
     
  10. landstar8891

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    They won't be the ''safest''.They will be some of the dumbest drivers on the road WITH NO BRAIN...LMAO..
     
  11. Scooter Jones

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    Let me also say that a lot of you guys run back in areas where the scale houses are often not even open, let alone pulling you in for inspections. I know, I used to run 48 states and would go for days sometimes before I even saw an open scale.

    Here on the west coast, I run, California, Oregon & Washington. Three states who have some of the strictest enforcement emphasis in the country. They use cross referencing technology, infrared cameras at "closed" scales and still tag you. So, since I don't have anything to gain one way or the other by using a paper log, I prefer an EOBR. It's just so much easier for me.

    Now, if we could just get back to discussing the "Mandatory 30 minute break" ;-)
     
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