Trlr Uncoupled - How could I have prevented this.

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by CaSunLuvr, Jul 27, 2013.

  1. CaSunLuvr

    CaSunLuvr Bobtail Member

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    I was leaving the customer, making a right turn @ under 15mph and THIS happened.... :biggrin_25513:

    I was okay. No persons or other vehicles, or objects were involved. There was only a report made for the damage to the road.

    The wrecker/tow truck guys said the kingpin was never properly set....

    How could that be possible if the 5th wheel is still locked?

    If the kingpin was never properly set, the jaws would be unlocked/open.

    I NEVER want this to happen again.... How can I prevent this?

    The tug test checked out okay, and everything looked find when I got out the raise the landing gear.
     

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  3. goforce

    goforce Light Load Member

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    Most likely you high locked it.

    Alan
     
  4. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    Did you get under the trailer and actually look at the Kingpin to see if it was behind and in the jaws correctly?
     
  5. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Yep, I would say a high lock too. Did you get a picture of the king pin on the trailer? Maybe it is worn or broken.
     
  6. rocknroll81

    rocknroll81 Road Train Member

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    After you hook up to a trailer and do a power tug, you ALWAY'S go under the trailer and look into the jaws to see if it is locked around the king pin, I am not sure what happened to you, the one scratch on the right side top plate looks like you over shot the 5th wheel, But that's just because I cannot see it that clearly or the jaws, they look like they are not closed, I see scratches on the right side of the mouth or opening but could be from the trailer falling off, you better get that 5th wheel looked at right away just in case, AGAIN, ALWAYS go under the trailer and look into the 5th wheel to see if it's locked.....
     
  7. Lostkeys

    Lostkeys Heavy Load Member

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    Hard for me to see from the pics but I would guess that this is a single jaw Simplex/Holland 5th wheel. I have had trouble with one in the past (I threw it in the scrap and put a 2 jaw Holland on) but it was on older equipment and never maintained. It gave me a false positive (I looked and tugged) also and I dropped a trailer in my lot. In short I would get it looked at by a mechanic...

    During your inspection (coupled to the trailer), the 5th wheel handle should be all the way in against the plate. Have you ever had trouble getting the handle to release during uncoupling? These are signs that there is a problem.

    Also after coupling, crawl under the trailer with a flashlight and look at the jaw to be sure that it is locked. The single jaw Simplex/Holland will have a piece on the left that locks the jaw in place. When looking at the opening of the coupled 5th wheel, you should see about an inch of the lock extending from the left. See the image below...The 'lock' that I am referring to has the spring on it.

    Inspecting a 2 jaw Holland 5th wheel...these have the threaded stud and nut.
    After coupling there should not be a gap between the jaws and the nut and washer on the threaded stud should be tight against the plate.

    Now as for this never happening again...if your inspection was thorough and everything checked out, there isn't much that you can do as a driver other than have the 5th wheel checked out by a mechanic.

    Just curious, but what did your company say about this?

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  8. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    have you ever seen those four letters on some trucks mirrors G.O.A.L. do you know what that means? Get Out And Look! always look up in the fifth wheel to see if the pin is in the locked jaws!
     
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  9. morr2fab

    morr2fab Medium Load Member

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    Let me tell you what happened. You didnt check the 5 wheel plate handle after coming back to your truck. Sounds like someone pulled the handle when you werent looking and you didnt check it. Always do a walk around your truck if you walk away from it, Always. People will mess with it.

    I have heard of it happening, first time I've heard from someone that it happened to.
     
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  10. CaSunLuvr

    CaSunLuvr Bobtail Member

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    I didn't get under and look. I usually do this, but this time I didn't. I will NEVER not get under and look again.
     
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  11. RocketScott

    RocketScott Medium Load Member

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    Ups and downs to smart phones these days. Take a picture every time. I do it because my memory is getting bad.

    The guys that drop lumber on my jobs do it so there is no question about what got delivered. I do it so when I'm trying to figure out what went wrong I can research it.
     
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