Why are HAZMAT Crude Haulers working for the same pay (or less) as Water Haulers

Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by Rockdoctor, Apr 21, 2013.

  1. Rockdoctor

    Rockdoctor Medium Load Member

    I've also known some drivers who recently left crude to go and haul water. Water seems to pay by the hour, almost all the crude drivers I speak with are paid by the load, usually 23-25%. Also I have heard at some of the places water haulers unload they provide free food, which for some seems to be a big deal, LOL!!!

    Some drivers just don't like working on commission and would rather be paid a set hourly rate. Then I know some drivers who like to run fast and they can do better with a commission based pay. There are lots of variables to consider too. If you are the type of driver who always gets lost going out to find a new well every other day or you like to pull over at all the truck stops and take a break, then commission will be a bad deal. I've been paid by the hour and by commission and I make more money on commission. That is basically because as an hourly employee I was paid a low hourly rate due to low experience but on commission I have the chance to run harder and earn more.
     
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  3. TLeaHeart

    TLeaHeart Road Train Member

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    I prefer commission. Work smart, and I make good money. We are paid hourly for things out of our control, like waiting to load or unload, and breakdowns.
     
  4. RSQ Diver

    RSQ Diver Light Load Member

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    Your work ethic will dictate what kind of money you earn. If you are lazy and trash around, don't expect much. If you bust ##### and are a go-getter but drive like an idiot… don't expect much, you will be paying tickets and ruining your driving record ultimately running yourself out of a job. If you hustle and are safe while doing it… you will see the big paychecks. I have been on both sides of the bust ##### fence for 20 years and I'm hear to tell ya the latter pays much better in the end :thumbup:
     
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  5. CbarM

    CbarM Heavy Load Member

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    So if a crude hauler is gettin say 25% then the truck is only gettin around $80/hr...????
     
  6. Rockdoctor

    Rockdoctor Medium Load Member

    I'm sure an O/O could do a better job of clarifying this but I have been told an operations manager wants the trucks to earn $110-$130/hr for the numbers to work out.
     
  7. cmbk21

    cmbk21 Bobtail Member

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    This is a problem I've been noticing, crude haulers are getting messed around, the water haulers are making very good money, but those are not the big companies, i.e. basic, nabors, they are anywhere from 15-18 an hour, those companies are good.. the $21-$23 an hour companies, most of them are junk trucks, not all . they are not legal, they just need people to fill trucks, when the oilfield goes down, they will be the first to go. Im in the Midland, tx area just so you know.. I have hauled water, and am now hauling crude, been hauling crude for almost a year now, , much more involved than hauling water, but like someone said earlier water haulers do a variety of different things, and most do not run logs, sorry if i'm kinda bouncing around a bit. but get in crude and stay there, it will be around forever, atleast until they set everything up on lacts, and then directly to a pipeline. I get paid by commission , but the company I work for is trying to change us to hourly, commission I was making on average $340 a day, anywhere from 10-14 hours, but we have been bought out, and the new company has loaded our storage up with contractors, and now i'm anywhere from $250-$300 a day
     
  8. Rockdoctor

    Rockdoctor Medium Load Member

    There are some crude haulers in my area who start out at $240 per load and that 1 load should take about 10 hours to do. I guess this is OK pay for someone trying to break into crude hauling from a CDL school or OTR, but I am not sure why anyone with more than 3 months experience hauling crude would work for these guys. $340 seems fair for an average day, I know some on nights can make over $400. That is funny you are getting bumped from commission to hourly, we just did the opposite!
     
  9. wingnut105

    wingnut105 Bobtail Member

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    Crudedude is right about the hustle=pay idea. I'm currently hauling fuel to frac sites out of Midland, sleeping in a bobtail for several days at a time and, occasionally, at decent company housing 5-10 wks at a stretch. No, it's not pretty, but I'm going to gross 110k this year. And then there are the guys that work 2 wks on/1 wk off. They'll make 65-70k. You do have to find the right place to get the hours, but those places exist. I found my current job right here on this forum. That being said, I'm looking to move to crude hauling for the tractor/trailer experience required to drive fuel back in Dallas. The company I'm looking at pays an average of $300/day 5 days/ week. Reading here, that sounds about right. Good luck & be careful.
     
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  10. hunnydew

    hunnydew Light Load Member

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    question already answered
     
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  11. Giggles the Original

    Giggles the Original Road Train Member

    hubby makes a minimum of $350 a day hauling crude. 3 loads a day, 5 days a week....did i post this already? sorry...cant remember...too lazy to look
     
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