Company drivers vs. O/O leasebacks. How do the parties benefit?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Songster, Aug 5, 2013.

  1. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    I have just suggested leasing (this morning, in fact, before noticing your thread) to the company I part-time for. I get no benefits because I'd rather go part-time than full-time and I'm slip-seating, which means when I'm not in the truck another driver may be--or not--sometimes it just waits for me or they use it for a short run. I've driven 4 of their tractors and I schlep my gear in, schlep my gear back out (so I want to stay out at least two days) and make sure to clean up nice and tidy for the next guy.

    Initially they said to leave my gear in, but I wouldn't feel good about my gear running down the road with another driver at the helm. So what happens is that my housekeeping isn't always reciprocated as you might expect. I may end up fueling (we have fuel at the terminal) on both ends; I inspect the truck closely, especially tires for flats and inflation and have stuff to clean out and squirt odor-killer for the smokers, although they've actually had someone detail the inside for me after a smoker had been in it and did that without my saying anything. Just wanted me to know that they had done that for me, however.

    We have a wash rack, by the way. Seemed like whenever I took a truck through, then someone else wanted it when I was gone! The big advantage for me is an end to slip-seating and continuing access to the shop there at the terminal. Dunno if they're interested or not, but I brought it up earlier this morning. Of course, if they're interested I have to get more serious about buying a truck! As far as I know they've never had O/Os and all equipment they have is paid for.
     
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  3. Songster

    Songster Light Load Member

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    So if I'm understanding correctly, an O/O has 'authority' as soon as they become an O/O, and if they 'lease on' to a company that has also established themselves in the eyes of the government as a 'carrier' with 'authority,' then both parties to the lease agreement have 'authority' to do something, whatever it is. And for whatever it's worth.

    So the government and lawyers go after both of you. Perhaps.

    So are you limited, either by law or by acceptable industry norm, to only be 'leased to' one company at a time, per tractor and/or trailer?
     
  4. MH60L

    MH60L Light Load Member

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    To get "authority" you apply to FMCSA for a mc number (motor carrier). You have to show proof of insurance and there is a fee and waiting period before you are legally allowed to carry property for hire. You can lease your truck to a company today and be hauling freight immediately because presumably the carrier will have existing active authority. Only a carrier would have authority. An owner operator will be operating under someone else's authority.
     
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  5. curiousalexa

    curiousalexa Bobtail Member

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    Is there a term difference for lease op if you lease thru the company vs. an outside vendor? I'm wary of the term lease op since so many company leases seem designed to (financially) kill drivers! I'm seriously interested in buying my own truck and driving under someone else's authority - I want to drive, not go back to office work!

    Also, what are "lanes"?
     
  6. Lucar

    Lucar Road Train Member

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    I'd strongly suggest you invest at least 6 months to 1 year driving some one else's truck before jumping on such a commitment that can drive you to bankrupt
    lane is a one way trip, if you say lane and talk about money together, means the base pay for the haul aside any extra accesories pay (such as tarp, fuel surcharge, wait time, and so on)
     
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  7. Songster

    Songster Light Load Member

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    So an O/O may or may not also be a 'carrier,' depending on if they jumped through the required hoops to become one. An O/O, whether or not they are also a carrier, can 'lease on' with whatever XYZ carrier of their choosing. So you have to be a carrier to have someone lease on to you. And you don't have to be a carrier to lease on to someone, but if you happen to be, it's ok. Hope I got that right.

    I don't know if 'owner/operator' has a legal definition, or instead is just an industry term, but if not, surely the law has another term for one. If it's just 'anyone who owns a truck and has it on the road,' then all the major carriers are also O/O's. They own trucks, and they operate them.

    I'm wondering if the CDL written test covers the legal definition of all these terms, and what the requirements and restrictions of each are. I know this is going down a different path than the original post, but it's still interesting to me.
     
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  8. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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  9. luvtotruck

    luvtotruck Road Train Member

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    None of the O/O Lease Op or anything else about business is on the test to be able to obtain your Commercial Drivers License, This would not be good, the gubermint doesn't want people going into business and making money because then they have to collect taxes from said business for the money that passed hands for this business.

    I hope this helps!
     
  10. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    I love being leased to Landstar.I make some serious cash here..
     
  11. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    Regardless,i am just a Road Whoore...
     
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