GORDON TRUCKING is a sespool for drivers!!!!

I will make this the last response to you and your comments Joe. There are too many other drivers with John Christner and other companies that I have personally met and know me to be a driver and not, as you put it, a paid troll. I'm not sure if its the fact that I'm happy and positive with the company that I'm leased to that gets your goat or if you just go looking for people to rile up. Regardless I do drive, the truck and trailer in my signature is a picture of the the truck I lease and the trailer I pull.

 

Wow Joe, if you want to get paid for your trolling you'll have to do better than that!

I'm a JCT driver. You could even consider me a, "happy" JCT driver although I have some gripes.

 

Yeah, go talk to some JCT drivers. Many of us know Terry personally and I for one take great offense at you slandering him. You sir are the very definition of a TROLL. You have NO EVIDENCE for your ignorant claim, yet you have no problem with calling him a liar? Shame on you.

 

Happy & positive with my current company & lease...come on joe, give him a break...Even pigs are happy slopping around in their own excrement .....lol

 

Go easy there thinking trucking was easy back when I started trucking....
I went to trucking school with the help of GI bill... Don't think many companies had driver schools back then and
no CDL either, we got a Chauffeur's license.. CDL's came later.. Had to wait over a month for a trucking company
to hire me.. Others were lucky and jumped on a truck with their dad or a friend...

First truck I was assigned to, was a 15 year old KW with a sleeper added on by taking out the back window.. I had NO A/C, no power steering, no jake brake.. Had a 4/3 two stick transmission.. Coming out of the deep southwest, after taking on produce, opened the
side door under the sleeper and shot that with ice after top icing the load.. That and a small fan was our AC..

We were paid 9cents a mile split and $15 to load and unload.. Stayed with that until got enough time to move up
to another company that paid better.. Try unloading a truck load of frozen birdeye with small boxes
onto a pallet sometime or load of watermelon into bins...

I believe you know very little on how hard trucking was back then but wish you luck on your new adventure and
hope everything works well on your new adventure..

I know very little about Gordon Trucking, so will leave that to others.. Sure wish I was on one of those trucks
back then.. Being retired from trucking, I do miss the road and come here to Re-live my past life...

 

Driver with all these complaints about Gordon youre psychobable is sgill enlightening. Keep up ghe good work and rat out aas many ##*** up companies you bump into (hoping truly instead you find a gight fit, lol;')

 

You're right that your EOBR picks up that you are driving within a short distance from where you left out from. When I drove for Gordon I had two miles I could drive before the EOBR started logging me as on-duty-driving. So I routinely had two 'illegal' miles pretty much every time I started out because whenever I stopped I went off-duty before pulling out.

The main 'cheating' on your elog is turning on-duty hours to off-duty and you have the capability to do that yourself. Mostly you put yourself 'off-duty' when you''re really not or you 'correct' your on-duty hours and change it to off-duty.

So what ever hours it took to wait at the guard shack for your turn, then get cleared through the guard shack, drop-and-hook inside the DC, update your ETA/PTA, get your paperwork, get in line at guard shack to leave, stop at guard shack until guard lets you out will be shown as what? Half-hour? You'll either show it or 'correct' it to show as little as you think you can get away with. That's cheating on your elog.

Scaling a load in a tight truck stop? Parked truck and went in for scale ticket? Had to adjust your tandems and go back over scale? Park truck again and get new scale ticket? How long did you wait in line to get up to counter? Still not right? Okay, pull lever on tandem slider, hop back in truck and adjust again and scale? How long does this all take? One driver recently mentioned he had 7 minutes for scaling--just a little less than the time on the scale. If the scale clerk is prompt and they're not always prompt. The big delay is inside the truck stop getting the scale ticket. Changed that time to off-duty? It's not. That's cheating on your elog.

Waited behind two trucks in shortest line to get up to fuel pump? Then after you get fueled the guy parked in front of you... who knows what he does... doesn't come back for 30 minutes (a long poop, perhaps) and you can't move. By the time you checked your tires, cleaned your windows, emptied trash out (you do that ever so often, yes?), you've been there an hour and a half but you log it for 15 minutes including PTI (inspection), right? That's cheating on your elog.

Cheating on your elog preserves your 70. It's done all the time at Gordon and it amounts to lots and lots of driver hours. Safety told me at one point that I had 19 hours for one week that I could convert to off-duty. No, it's not legal. That's cheating on your elog.

 

Victor, and I'm asking this with total respect, do you have any idea how the trucking game is played? The way to make money is to preserve your hours and stretch where you can. That's what we've always done. E-log or paper. This is the way the game is played. Unless any company will pay by the hour, this is what we do to maximize our earning potential. This is how it is done, since the start of the HOS rules way back in the 1930's. Every driver who is worth his salt plays the game. This is how we make money.

 

Hi, Joseph. I'm thanking you there because there is 'a way the trucking game is played.' True. And to be fair, Gordon will NEVER, in my experience ask, require or demand that a driver run illegally. Never. Nobody made me change my on-duty hours to off-duty. Nobody. Is that the way the game is played? Yes. Is it a Gordon-specific thing? No.

Gordon is simply one of the more safety-conscious outfits running and it shows up in Gordon's excellent CSA score. CSA scores are not accidents... (pun intended) : 0)

 

Exactly. Gordon is one of the safest companies out there. They wear it like a badge. But lets not forget they are out here to make a profit. Without that profit, there is no company. And the way they make a profit is by their drivers wanting to make money out here, i.e. safely and by maximizing hours. In that aspect, they are no different than any other company. Walmart, Bison, Prime, etc. doesn't matter. They all have a common goal. Make a ton of dough. And companies like Bison and Gordon have found a way to make that money by doing it safely, as documented by their safety ratings.