GunMetal345's Tanker Lease Experience

Discussion in 'Prime' started by GunMetal345, Jun 30, 2013.

  1. popcorn169

    popcorn169 Road Train Member

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    Glad to see that you are pursuing a goal and that you are tracking it as close as you are. Hope that it pans out for you. Wish I had the computer knowledge to do the spreadsheets but not that literate with computer.

    enjoy time off.
     
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  3. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    It's still necessary to do your own book keeping... just to keep your head inside the numbers. A huge failing of many o/o's.
     
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  4. GunMetal345

    GunMetal345 Light Load Member

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    You don't have to be good. You just have to know how to read your settlement. You will be getting most of your information from those documents. The spreadsheets you make will just be to get break downs that you want.

    Update: This is my first week that I got all low pay (for tanker) loads but my take home before taxes was $1600. This is higher than I expected for low weeks. I'm a little salty about the mileage charges. This stuff that I'm doing is not the lazy tanking I saw in training, lol. I'm happy they trust me with the tight loads after such a short time. They were lining me up to go home so hopefully I will be back to the high profit lanes when I get back to work.

    Later guys. Mrs. GunMetal345 says hello.
     
  5. popcorn169

    popcorn169 Road Train Member

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    Doing the own book keeping I understand along with the settlement reading it is just that I do not know how to do a spread sheet on a computer to put all of my receipts in the proper place. I know Kevin Rutherford has the program that he offers and it is supposed to be a good one. I guess if someone showed me how to do the spread sheet then I would learn. If I ever decide to get a truck of my own or lease one then I will have someone to show me that.

    Have a great day and be safe

    Terry
     
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    cl8936 Light Load Member

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    He did a whole guide on how to keep your receipts organized, I use an iPhone scan app to back mine up to iCloud, but other than that pretty much went by his guide.
    http://solutions.letstruck.com/Guide/How+to+Scan+and+Organize+your+Receipts/12/1
     
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  7. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    There's plenty of information in the weekly settlement, but it jumps around too much to answer some of the questions you really need to have information about. Yup, it's easy to see what your daily fixed cost is... you need that as part of a decision to turn down a load. That's what you have to make up sitting today if and when you get a load tomorrow.

    But numbers like your per-mile cost just to run the truck, per-mile cost with all expenses including driver (your) salary, loaded per-day costs... really can't be answered from one settlement. It will tell you how you did on that particular week, but you need long-term averages to make sound decisions on each load. I'm not talking about one month here, but at least an entire quarter. Then there's other information of interest... tracking your per-mile maintenance costs, fuel costs, how much incidental money your spending for truck stuff. All of that helps you keep an eye on where your money is going.

    Now throw in the idea that your costs will vary across a year... on a cyclical basis. That's why you can't just depend on what you see in one week. Keeping track of this on a long-term basis is vital to the health of your business. Then there are some nice little bits of information you can use on a weekly, monthly, quarterly and yearly basis to help you to know what that "health" status is. The operational ratio is a great one for that...

    All costs/gross revenue = the operational ratio.

    It needs to be less than one, and the smaller the better. For example if you keep 30-cents of every dollar you earn, your operational ratio is 0.7. If it gets above 1 for any length of time, you're hemmoraging money, and it's time to throw in the towel. Just reading settlements can't give you this information.

    How much money do you have to make each day to pay for the truck, fuel and your salary? Per mile?
    How much money does it cost for you just to run the truck under a load and break even?
    What is the minimum per-mile rate you can accept just to pay for the truck without fuel... if you have to?

    You can't answer these questions from just one settlement.
     
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  8. GunMetal345

    GunMetal345 Light Load Member

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    That is all very helpful information and great for looking back on what has happened. Most of my focus is on saving on costs and earning as much as possible. I don't turn down any loads because getting money now is always better than waiting for something else with where my business is at now. My low mark is $1.30 per mile on the dispatch but the lowest I've seen was $1.47 per mile revenue on actual miles I drove. So far as long as I'm running I'm profitable even though I'm doing the worst out of any tanker driver I have seen as far as my loads. January is my time for looking back on the year. Going week to week and looking at the year to date revenue is enough for now.

    I used to make $1400 a month before taxes and now I'm making $1600 on a bad week. Double that on a good week. It's real easy to see where I'm at in these early stages.

    For you guys out there thinking about bookkeeping, learn to read the settlement first. It's where you will get all the business information for your number crunching. I use my debit cards for everything so I just look at my statements to figure out what I spent food and entertainment. Yes I spend more on entertainment than food but I pay myself first, lol.
     
  9. GunMetal345

    GunMetal345 Light Load Member

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    I don't know what kind of settlements you get over there but a week is the best way to look at it from my point of view. You made the fixed cost and turned a profit or you didn't. The settlement will tell you why you did or didn't make a profit. The "Holy Grail" of fuel is 8 mpg and I'm close to 9 almost every week. On a bad fuel week I'm still 8 or a little less (7.98). With the surcharge my fuel cost me less than a quarter per gallon.

    At the beginning things are going to be more expensive because you are getting set up. A lot of the stuff I'm spending on for the truck are one time expenses. The work I'm having done are things that need to happen. There is a time to look back and see what's going on but most of the time you should be running your business.

    Make the money. I don't turn down loads. I see the team at Prime as my business partners and we are on the same page. My low loads usually lead me to higher paying loads. At worse I look at is as building a relationship with my Fleet Manager and Sales. I help Prime look good by solving problems and they look out for me. My FM get all the extra money he can for me and in return I get loads delivered on time.

    I set myself up in the best way possible to make a profit on my first lease. I have a lightweight truck that gets greater fuel economy and has a low payment compared to the other trucks. I am a fuel commando so no idling and I try to keep the miles low. I drive a few extra miles because I always take the fastest route because I'm driving slow.

    With all that said, at the end of September I will be doing all the number crunching IP was talking about because that will be my first quarter of this year. I look at the settlements in 4 week chunks and also enjoy the year to date numbers while I'm out there. It's a great snapshot of what's going on.

    Run your business or if you're still thinking about it, learn how you want to run it. Some of you company guys will not make money because of your driving habits. Save on fuel!

    Laters, GunMetal345 out.
     
  10. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    My settlements look just like yours... well except I make millions every week! :laughing-guffaw:
     
  11. cmflyer

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    How much revenue do you have to generate to pay for your truck,fuel and salary per mile ?
     
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