hows this oil sample look

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  1. gunner76

    gunner76 Medium Load Member

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    Got my latest oil sample back and here need help figuring out what everything means.

    Additives:

    ZN,PPM-1612 last change it was 1569
    P, PPm- 1571, last 1493
    Ba, - 0
    Mg - 342, last 324
    Ca - 3744, last 3529

    Metals:

    Only metals to show wear are: Iron, this time it was a 10 last time it was 12ppm
    Al showed 0 this time and 1 last time



    For the physical tests I ended up with the following:

    Soot .1 this time and 0 last time

    Oxidation 8.7 abs/cm this time and 2,2 last time

    Nitration 13.6 this time and 4.6 last time (can't figure out why it jumped up so much)

    ZDDP depletion 0 this time and 9.2 last time

    Water, fuel, and coolant were not present in tests.


    The engine is a '07 NXS C15 at 475h.p. with 438k on it with 10k on the oil. I added 1 gal makeup this time and zero last time. Oil is Archer 15w40 dino oil.

    In the comment section it said all test appeared normal but I would like to figure out why the nitration levels jumped so much from last change.
     
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  3. Worthken

    Worthken Light Load Member

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    What motor? Out of couriosity.
     
  4. allan5oh

    allan5oh Road Train Member

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    Overall the sample looks good, and it's hard to know exactly what is abnormal for nitration since so many labs use different metrics. I would call the lab and ask what they would consider abnormal. Given what I know about the ACERTs, I would check ventilation. I know there was an update as some point for those engines, and lack of ventilation can cause nitration.
     
  5. gunner76

    gunner76 Medium Load Member

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    what do you mean by ventilation? The crankcase breather or air intake?
     
  6. allan5oh

    allan5oh Road Train Member

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    crankcase. IIRC ACERT engines have some sort of update for the rocker cover adding ventilation. It may not be an issue to begin with.
     
  7. TheDude1969

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    Also adding to, the great comments already listed you must test using same oil brand, and same lab to get a comparable result.

    I'm certainly no lab guy, but the nitration level would get my attention as well. The soot increase, and oxidation seem to confirm the nitration number. I'd send copy to Cat, see what their standards are, in mean time watch MPG till next sample. And follow allan5oh advice also.
     
    wore out Thanks this.
  8. gunner76

    gunner76 Medium Load Member

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  9. allan5oh

    allan5oh Road Train Member

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    Also with the hot weather you will always see an increase in nitration and oxidation.
     
  10. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    I would tend to agree with that. Heat can really beat up an oil and cause increase in oxidation. The key, is that the add pack is not falling apart and the wear numbers on metals are not into alert status. Never, but never, base any conclusions on only one or two items looking goofy. And trend lines are important. Watching how things do over time.
     
  11. Winterborn

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    Could be a lot of idle time causing it to.
     
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