Is there any way to bring your CSA score down??

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  1. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    No, there is not.


    24 isn't a terrible score,

    just don't let it go any higher, if possible.
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Do you know which shipper it is with the regular run near your house? Would it be possible to call (anonymously) and ask them which other companies might be pulling for them?

    This sounds like a good opportunity for you. Someone screwball in an office does not give a rat's backside that this would fit very well for your situation. Be a little more aggressive, perhaps tell them if they put you on the same run all the time you will get more experience with roads you will be seeing every time you do the run and therefore have less chance of having any more violations (costs) for them. 24 is not a high score.

    Decide how valued you feel working for your present employer. Evidently they want you to think you are on thin ice and walking on egg shells all the time. Remember that the day you decide to tell them you are done, they won't make another dime off your services. At which point, they can hire a new driver who will likely make the same mistakes you have (or worse). You are doing them a favour by driving for them and your MINOR errors are just LESSONS you have learned and are less likely to repeat now. The more experience you gain the more leverage you will have.

    You see the opportunity. Now go and do your best to take it.
     
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  4. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Like 123456,now there's a screen name hard to remember,lol.Anyway you cannot get it lowered but in time they'll drop off.Just keep your cdl clean and move forward.I had 147 points on my cdl thanks to the last company because my boss was too cheap to get anything fixed on the road.I had to wait until I got to his rinky dink shop.The company im at now almost 2 yrs,I haven't receieved any points.
     
  5. northoceanbeach

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    Isn't it unfair the way the system seems to punish more experienced drivers? Two drivers looking for a job.

    Driver A: has worked 6 days a week for the last three years continuously. Has a CSA score of 24 from a left turn at a Pilot and a backing accident, but otherwise is a good and safe driver.

    Driver B: has worked for one month in the past three years, and got not tickets in that one month, and quit because truck driving was scary, but now needs money.

    Both are applying to the same place. The better, more experienced driver, has a much higher CSA score. It seems that CSA punishes for experience. The more you drive, the better you get and safer you become. You drive through a variety of conditions and experience more things and learn from yours, and others' mistakes. But for most people, from time to time, stuff does happen out there, even parking just outside the lines at a rest area for five minutes to read a map can get you a ticket that will raise your CSA score.

    It just doesn't make sense to me that someone with no experience has a perfect score. It punishes experience. It should :

    Score / months experience.

    So if you have a score of 24 and have 36 months experience, your score is .66, or if you have a score of 24 and only 3 months experience, your score is 8. This better shows time driven.

    What is the average score these days and what is a high score?
     
  6. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Mine had been zero for two years till I made a mistake on the log. First one in 14 years.

    Now it is about 20.
     
  7. Ubu

    Ubu Road Train Member

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    Is that correct?

    I though there were 2 different scoring systems for CSA points, CSMS (Carrier Safety Measurement System) for carriers and DSMS (Driver Safety Measurement System) for drivers.
     
  8. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    There is one for drivers too, not just the companies. Not all companies are using the driver one though.
     
  9. rocknroll81

    rocknroll81 Road Train Member

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    I know the other one is called PSP or Pre-employment screening Program. If you get a seat belt violation it will go on your PSP report and the companies CSA score in the unsafe driving Basic, and on your PSP it will fall of in 3 years....
     
  10. G/MAN

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    The entire CSA program if faulty. If there are penalties, there should be rewards for doing a good job and getting a clean inspection. Having points triple the first year is grossly unfair, as well. The premise of CSA may be good, but it hasn't work as well as the proponents first suggested.
     
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  11. EZ Money

    EZ Money Road Train Member

    You can see how many points you actually have as a driver,

    https://dataqs.fmcsa.dot.gov/Default.aspx

    You can dispute it also but better have documentation to back it up.
    I had 3 points on mine and had them removed over the Doctor writing the wrong expiration date on my Medical card.

    It cost 10 bucks to get a copy online but well worth it to see exactly what is on your CSA record.
     
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