no b.s. here
Ok lets start,
went to TDI in indy (school unofficially owned by werner) totall amount of school loan 3,000. that will be paid on for 3 years at 250 per month! (i have a suspicion that they own the loan company too). werner would pay 100 per month of the loan as long as i worked for them (they would pay it my butt! they just make up the diff by giving recent grads the huge pay rate f .26 cpm, .24 per diem :/)
went to school for 3 weeks was put in a truck with a trainer for 6 weeks got paid 250 a week during this time. after all the time without a job from being in school. by the time you get the 250 pretty much all your utilitys are being disconnected.
i need to take this minute to expand on that wonderful paperless log they like to brag about. the thing sux!!! it will automatically log you on line 4 throughout the day. you send in a mesage to logs to get it corrected, and for some reason logs always turns down the correction and you end up having to call them and sit on hold for 10 min at a time at numerous points in the day.
they will send you places like chicago have you drop your trailer without an emtpy and send you running all over town looking for emtys that might be somewhere they send you (i have spent 2 straight days searching for mt before). and no, you do not get paid for that (youll find you work for free a lot in the trucking industry period, more so with werner.
you will sit half a day or more sometimes waiting on a load, and when you think you got a good one it will get swapped off of you by a team, or a trainer team. most loads i got would already be way too tight to possibly make on time, if you tell the dispatcher you cant make it on time, they will say "youll be fine" and then you get a late load on your record.
they hate to see you go home. they say one day for every seven out. and they want you out for 14 at a time. my mom was put in the hospitol and while i was at the terminal 20 miles from my home, 2 days before my requested days off. and i was not under a load. and they told me i could not go home to see her (yes, i went anyway). another time my truck was in the shop at my home terminal. i asked the forman how long it would take. he said tomorrow night. i told my dispatcher i would go home and wait since i was only a few miles away. he said no! you stay with that truck! they will work on it faster if they know you are waiting.
all this crap for 24 cpm, and i never in 7 months with them got over 1100 miles a week! and no, it wasnt my fault. whats that? ask for a different fleet manager you say? i did i went through 3 of them thank you. werner drivers are so ashamed of what they make they like to lie about their miles and weekly pay. i have caught a few of them in the process. they will all tell you they get 2500+ miles a week. they are bold faced liars. the only people who get the good miles at werner are trainer teams.
im glad to say those days are over for me, i write this to help save some of you the trouble. when i quit i still didnt have any experience so i had to go with another noob company that i heard a lot of bad about (J.B. Hunt) and i know there is a lot of bad talked about them, but i run the midwest regional and i must have just got a cool fleetmanager cause it hasnt been so bad. i do seem to hear a lot more bad from the 48 drivers than i do from the regional drivers. they pay me .34 cpm for midwest, the northeast pays .39 and thats for inexperienced drivers. i get home religiously every weekend. now i could stand for a few more miles, but getting home is more important to me. i (honestly) get an average of 2200-2300 a week sometimes more sometimes less, but havent had a (bring home) check of less than 480 usually 5-600. i know this isnt great, but i am home a lot, the loads all have plenty of time on them (i get lost of showers. but you have to get the exp. from somewhere. if i had known then what i know now, i would have started with someone like maybe creet or rohel. i really truley hope that some of you possible recruits read this, and save yourselves a lot of heartache.
WERNER, this kind of rip off cant be legal
Discussion in 'Werner' started by bloodyknuckles, Feb 3, 2008.
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This is what I was wondering about. Do some newbies go with these companies just to get the cdl and training and then move on to bigger and better things? Would it look bad to have Werner as a former employer?
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Well Bloodyknuckles - Whilst I note everything you've said, unfortunately I'm not in a position to be choosy. I am British, got my full CDL (so no loan fees to repay), but I've only held a U.S. drivers license since May of 2007 - I tried Roehl, as I'd read a lot of good things about them, but although I've got a clean 45 years driving record in Europe, that cannot be substantiated in the U.S., and Roehl said, please come back in a couple of years time. Now at my age, that's about a lifetime, so, as I have no other avenues down which to travel, I am leaving tomorrow for Monday's orientation seemingly at the same location that you had your experiences, hopefully I can be a little luckier - Thanks for the input anyway - good luck
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wow 1100 miles
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"they will send you places like chicago have you drop your trailer without an emtpy and send you running all over town looking for emtys that might be somewhere they send you (i have spent 2 straight days searching for mt before). and no, you do not get paid for that (youll find you work for free a lot in the trucking industry period, more so with werner."
Well, I hate to be the wet blanket, but if you are getting paid hourly - everything is paid for regardless of what you are doing. I read all these stories and it makes me wonder what possibly could motivate a person to want to go into the trucking industry at all - besides those that love to drive. For the hours spent, you could just as easily stay home, get a job doing whatever and not have to deal with all the bs.AA031959 Thanks this. -
my experiences with werner were not as bad though i can relate to some of the problems you had, i pulled for their dedicated dollar general account and when my knees could no longer handle the physical unloading of the trailers i asked to transfer to another division within werner and was immediately disappointed with the offers, .26 for 48 states and .22 for netops. i was then informed that due to my aching knees i was not allowed to continue on the dollar general account. i left werner after total of 8 months (includes training) and currently drive for crete and getting paid .41 on their national fleet. my point here is that if you hang in there for alittle to gain some experience the doors to brighter days will soon be available to you. crete accepted me with only 8 months experience and put on a trainers truck for just 3 weeks and then cut me loose on my own, i have been with crete since jun '07 and recieved .01 raise in december bumping me from starting pay of .40 to .41. if possible when leaving your current employer try to leave without burning any bridges as they may come back to haunt you. goodluck to you.
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well thing is, the way these recruiters work they sucker you in bit by bit until you have so much tied up in it that you kinda have to keep going. and you get trapped. but, there is excellent earning potential in the industry once you've shed your blood on the road. but most dont realize how they will bleed to death in the process and the recruiters like to capitolize on that.
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wow sorry to hear about the bad time with werner. I do work for werner and have had to deal with a few of the issues but not to the point you did. when i was running 48 i averaged 3000 miles a week, I never had to wait more than a couple of hours for a load but for once when i mty out on a saturday afternoon and had to wait until monday to load. Never had a problem with the logs I just got in to a habbit at the end of the day looking at them and sending in my fixes and they were always fixed. I guess it really depend on your dm and i had a good one he was always willing to work with me and when i would tell him i really need the miles this week he would get me them. I'm now going to be running local for them and will see how that goes.
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Bloodyknuckles - My experience, as a Trainee, with the paperless logs was EXACTLY the same. And at the end of every day, or first thing in the morning, I would check the Qualcomm log with my own paper log, which I kept for myself very carefully and truthfully. And yes, they always had me on duty, taking my hours, just automatically. I would call the Log Department, and they would REFUSE to correct, not only for me, but for my Trainer also. For some reason, they didn't want to believe either one of us. It was so unreal, and took up so much time talking to them, that we just decided to let it go, let the Qualcomm fantasize the HOS the way it wanted to! Yikes!
A note to the Brit - Welcome to the Land of Opportunity! A lot of drivers are curious about how you lorry drivers are doing these days. Did you ever make that LONG drive from Europe to the east coast of Siberia? How do they pay drivers across the ocean? I'd love to see a 'new thread' on the subject, as there are a few others from overseas who post occasionally. You're 5 years older than me, and I take my hat off to you! My cowboy hat, that is. Actually, now that I'm in Quebec, it's a tri-corner, in straw! -
Geez, why don't you try Equity Transportation out of Walker, MI. They have decent equipment and still seem like a decent company to work for; although I did come across an Equity driver a few years ago in Carlisle PA that had glassy eyes from being up all night smoking crack.
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. but you have to get the exp. from somewhere. if i had known then what i know now, i would have started with someone like maybe creet or rohel. i really truley hope that some of you possible recruits read this, and save yourselves a lot of heartache.