Questions about new driver pay

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by CharlesS, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. CharlesS

    CharlesS Light Load Member

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    I have read a lot of posts on here and saw a lot of youtube videos about new driver pay. I saw a video where a driver showed his paystubs from what he made his first few weeks OTR and it was rather depressing. I have also read some posts where some new drivers are making good money right out of school so whats the deal? What I am trying to figure out and I don't think has really been explained (if it has I haven't found it yet) is what is the difference in pay pay for new drivers? When I am saying "good money" referring to the $30,000 - $35,000 year salary for a new driver as claimed by many companies and other sites.

    I know endorsements play a big part in what you can make on the road, if you can't haul certain types of freight you may wind up sitting waiting for a load you can haul.....

    Area of the country, some states or regions move freight slower or less than others especially in winter months?

    Refusing loads or complaining about what you get?

    I just don't quite understand how one new driver for Company A can be making $700 a week while another driver for the same company is barely making $400 or less. The money is all in the loads so why the big difference in pay? I know there is plenty of experience here, so fill in the missing details here and help new and future drivers make the most $$ they can.
     
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  3. Chase05

    Chase05 Medium Load Member

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    Because too many new drivers will commit themselves to the first huge name carrier they see. Bigger is better right? Their add in the trucking magazine told me they were friendly with great pay, must be true.

    Your pay is going to depend on your attitude, and the company you sign on with. Want to only drive regional and be home on weekends? Not gonna make as much as the OTR guys. Refusing loads, you're gonna get on your dispatcher's #### list after not too long. Had dozens of people online tell you not to drive for Swift or Werner, then you do anyway? Your pay is gonna suck. Do your research, ask questions, just do things right instead of blindly jumping onto whatever carrier drives your favorite color tractors.

    Also, as for the whining about low pay. You stating 700 as high end for good pay, is what many people on this site whine about (that's gross income). You can, with relative ease and good choices, maybe a little luck, gross considerably higher than that as a new driver.
     
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  4. Jaguar115

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    Starter companies have ALOT of newbies to choose from..they don't care if your sitting, if you look around in the truck stop there is probably many trailers with the same name on your trailer waiting for a load.

    I started with SRT out of Ashdowne AR.. 29 cents a mile, (yeah right) it was 26 cents with a 3 cent bonus for each mile run in the quarter IF you qualified..

    I ran over hours, arrived early, would stay out 8-10 wks at a time, then request 2 days off....only to get called at home being asked to come out early.

    I was on track/had many more miles to hit that 3 cent bonus per mile for the quarter..and end up sitting extended amounts of time in truck stops the last couple weeks of quarter.

    Companies will run the hell out of you then prevent you from making that extra money to get you at the "bonus" which is part of that advertised $30-$35k pay scale.

    Unfortunately, newbies are used and abused.. They are convinced that this is the "norm" in the trucking industry..and they leave, frustrated and disgruntled.

    Youre going to suffer, you're going to be lonely, mad, broke and in tears when you talk to your family. I promise you, it gets better.

    Put in enough time to get away from the starter company..don't worry about your tuition/training expense..it's a threat to keep you humble..

    Find a better job, there are "stepping stone" companies..

    You will make it, and YOU and YOUR family will be better for it.

    good luck
     
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  5. CharlesS

    CharlesS Light Load Member

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    How do the bigger companies that have the bad pay manage to stay in business? I would think that the new drivers and the experienced drivers alike would just work for the better paying companies leaving the others with no drivers. Its not like working for fast food restaurants, where the pay is basically the same no matter what dump you work at. Im just looking to bypass the bad experiences and start off with a good company so I don't wind up being one of those guys that is miserable because of his job. I want to be a truck driver becouse I think it will be a good way to make decent money with very little investment, im not planning on getting rich or any other silly fantasies. Just want to make decent money for good hard work, no frills.
     
  6. Chinatown

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    To make the good money starting year one, go to a private or community college CDL school. Get the tanker/hazmat, TWIC, passport.

    The drivers only making $30K or around that area are starting their career with the mega-refrigerated carriers. They spend too much time with a trainer & too much time waiting for loading or unloading. For example, if you drive 300 miles to make a delivery on Monday and it takes 3 or 4 hours to unload, then your next load may be 200 miles on Tuesday and it takes a few hours to load a frozen or meat load. That Tuesday pickup may deliver 700 miles away on Thursday. You pick up your next load Friday for Monday or Tuesday delivery. So you've spent a week and only driven 1300 to 1600 miles. This won't happen every week, but it happens often enough to keep your annual pay down.

    Look at assessorial pays, because the add up to some good money over a period of a year; stop pay, detention pay, tarp pay, layover pay, etc.

    To avoid this, look at companies many students don't know about and the schools may not tell you about. The schools usually have a standard list of companies that recruit from the school & most of those are the mega-refrigerated/dryvan carriers. Sometimes a good tanker or flatbed company may send a recruiter to the school. I personally know drivers that made $60K their first year solo, after orientation/training. They applied to companies most never heard of, tanker/hazmat.

    For example, System Transport(trans-system website) or Melton Truck Lines, a hard worker can make $50K + annually. Might even hit close to $60K with a company like Holland Enterprises. If your in the right hiring area there are tanker/hazmat companies that hire new CDL grads.

    If trucking is in your future plan, start now doing research where you want to work. Look at Careerbuilder and Indeed websites and study the "CDL Practice Tests" at top of this page.
     
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  7. CharlesS

    CharlesS Light Load Member

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    I really think there is an opertunity here to promote the good companies that will give a new driver a chance to make it if he/she works for it. Nothing should have to be easy or given, everything needs to be earned but when you do earn it you should be rewarded with the prize.

    I know there are good companies out there (from what I have read anyway), just a matter of who they are and if they will hire new drivers right out of school with no experience.

    I know I myself and I am sure just about every other new driver wants to start off with a company that has some concern for the drivers. I think this is going to be a lot like investing money, no one wants to invest their money with a investment firm that just buys junk stock and wastes your money getting you no return. Same thing here, no one wants to go to work for a company that will take advantage of them, make them quit and abandoned their truck in parking lot and take the bus back home. Just like looking for a good investment firm, you want to go with the winners the ones who are actually working for you.

    So I guess what I am learning here is that the big companies have too many new drivers and not enough loads to go around and they don't care if your moving or not? What does that do for their bottom line to have a truck sitting and not moving (not moving = not making money)? The companies that provide the "free schooling" don't care if you up and quit, then you just owe them for the cost of the training that you aren't going to use? But I still don't understand how some new drivers are making $$ while others are going broke on the road.... Is it simply the endorsements, willingness to drive, and the communication with the dispatcher or is there more to it?
     
  8. Chase05

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    Pretty much what I said above. The large companies advertise and spend lots of money on recruiting new drivers. They have schools that allow you to get your CDL "for free", and or tuition reimbursement, made up bonuses, sign on bonuses paid over a year or more. In other industries, working for a big company usually seems like a good thing. In trucking, it's generally the opposite. People don't know or don't believe when they are told about this though. Every day someone comes onto this site and say's "Swift or Werner", and most people will tell them, "Neither, try A,B or C trucking co". You'd pretty surprised how many people will stick to the one or two companies they already filled an app out for.

    There's more to it than that obviously, but that's all I can say for sure. Small companies just don't have enough trucks for everyone, some people just get stuck with the crap big guys, many more just go with them for what I stated above.
     
  9. CharlesS

    CharlesS Light Load Member

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    Thanks, this is good news and I think more new drivers need to be aware of the broken promises and lies that they will get from these recruiters that push these amazing job opportunities. I really liked your break down of the mileage, makes so much sense but I can see how a new driver can easily get roped into it and be "stuck" living out his contract for bad pay.
     
  10. CharlesS

    CharlesS Light Load Member

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    Yeah I guess it just makes sense, just a real eye opener when you realize what could be waiting for you once you get your license and you get out on the road.
     
  11. Chase05

    Chase05 Medium Load Member

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    Some people have problems with their background or something that makes the mega's their best option, or at least reduces their choices so much that they can't find that other place that would actually take them.

    If you have a clean record, and a brain, there's no reason you can't sign on with a good company. Go to a good private CDL school, apply to smaller places that pay well (not all mom and pops are better options, some pay crap and hire just about anyone too), apply to people that say they require experience and make a good impression, and at the very least, try to get in with one of the better starter companies. Some are obviously much better than others, even if they are still looked down at. Use your head, make good decisions, and 35K can be a low number for your first year.
     
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