HOS 8 hour rule question

Rule covers Line 3 and 4 combined. If you drive for 7 hours and drop to line 4 for 1 hour, then you have to take a break.

30-Minute Break - The rule includes a provision that allows
truckers to drive if they have had a break of at least 30 minutes, at a time of
their choosing, sometime within the previous 8 hours. However, the final rule
requires that if more than 8 consecutive hours on duty have passed since the
last off-duty (or sleeper-berth) period of at least half an hour, a driver must
take a break of at least 30 minutes before driving. For example, if the driver
started driving immediately after coming on duty, he or she could drive for 8
consecutive hours, take a half-hour break, and then drive another 3 hours, for a
total of 11 hours. Alternatively, a driver could drive for 3 hours, take a
half-hour break, and then drive another 8 hours, for a total of 11 hours. In
other words, this driver could take the required break anywhere between the 3rd
and 8th hour after coming on duty. A driver who plans to drive until the end of
the 14th hour and wants to take only one break will need to take a break between
the 6th and 8th hour after coming on duty. Drivers will have great flexibility
in deciding when to take their break. By postponing the latest point at which
the break can be taken from the 7th to the 8th hour, the rule will make it
significantly easier for team drivers to fit their break into their schedules.

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So anyway… I have to admit that this rule is a bit more complicated than I originally thought. I thought, “8 hours of driving, take a 30-minute break, then finish your day.” Easy squeezy, right? Not so fast, Hot Rod. First, the 8-hour thing includes any on-duty, off-duty, or sleeper berth time under 30 minutes. So if you fueled for 15 minutes, that on-duty time counts towards the 8 hours. But what if you pull into a rest area and show 15 minutes in the sleeper berth while you make your cup of ramen? Yep. That counts towards the 8 hours too. But if you extend that for 15 more minutes, it counts as the 30-minute rest break. That’s great, right? Well, maybe. That all depends on when you took the break.
Did you know that if you aren’t careful as to when you take your 30-minute rest break, you may actually have to take two 30-minute breaks in one 14-hour day? This will be most likely to happen if you take your break before the 6th hour. Let’s walk through an example. Say you start your day at 10 AM and you take a 30-minute lunch break 6 hours later at 2 PM. This break qualifies as your 30-minute rest break. But it also restarts the 8-hour clock. So you go back to driving at 2:30 PM. At 10:30 PM (eight hours later and still within your 14-hour day), you need to take another rest break. So if you want to avoid wasting an extra 30 minutes per day, try to remember not to break the first 6 hours of your day!

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So, basically the rule covers lines 1, 2 , 3, 4; once you begin your On Duty time. Any time on Line 1 or 2 that does not equal 30 minutes counts towards the 8 hours.

 

Also note, just like the 14 hour rule, you can be on-duty past the 8 hours, you just cannot be driving. Also as others have stated, take it within 6-8 hours of your day. That way it's easier to keep track of, you only need one 30 minute break.

 

Do you have a source to back that up? What you posted supports what I said.

 

i don't know why this is even an argument for discussion.

most of you are on the computer. it'll tell you how much driving time you have before your done for a break OR the day.