Do companies reimburse you for paying for CDL school if you paid with a check?

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by Free Bird, Nov 4, 2013.

  1. Free Bird

    Free Bird Bobtail Member

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    Thank you all very much for the information and advice, it has all been very helpful! I will definitely look into Watkins and Shepherd, it sounds like a good starter company. How often are they hiring, if any of you know?

    @NewbiusErectus- It is nice to hear from someone who went to Great Lakes, I think that is where I will go, even though it is pretty expensive I would rather pay the extra money and know I am getting a good sound education rather than take my chances of getting in trouble on the road because my skills are lacking due to inadequate training. Do you by any chance know if Great Lakes will lower the cost of tuition if you pay it all up front with cash/check? I have heard of some schools doing this. How much did it cost you and what program did you take? If you don't mind me asking. Also, when did you graduate from there, and how is their equipment and training facility? It sounds like you enjoyed your time there. If you had another chance to do it over would you go to Great Lakes or go somewhere else less expensive? Please, any more information on this topic would be greatly appreciated! Thank you al who have already replied too!
     
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  3. 1TMC1

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    That is completely untrue.

    The only schools that charge that little are state schools. They receive both federal and state funding to keep their doors open because $1600 will not cover the costs of training a student for 6 weeks....not even close.

    So someone's paying the difference....the tax payer is.

    The lost time involved in the extra unnecessary weeks of training is lost money out of our pocket as well.
     
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  4. muffinmanUSN

    muffinmanUSN Bobtail Member

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    Rock and roll. If so many carriers offer tuition reimbursment without a ROS obligation I dont see the reasoning for pursuing months of misery and being under the gun by a company. Understanding that money isnt an option for everyone with WIA workforce investment act dollars and financial aid options at private school, covering the cost wont hurt your pockets too much. Job placement is huge in private industry so keep your eyes peeled.
     
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  5. muffinmanUSN

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    Obviously dollar signs matter with folks but totally agree that price tag is grossly undershot. Seems to me you would be walking into an area where one lie covers another or the last. Distance and cost should play second fiddle in your show sir. Look at drive time actually offered by the school behind the wheel. Ask what they train on above state standards and how long you will be with them for. I would think about 1000$ a week is a good figure considering insurance, fuel and facilities paid by the company. Also put into factoring what overhead you as a student will face. Physical, drug screening, permit and licensing cost, uniforms (past the first issue if required), berthing and food could all be factored into your budget. Keep digging there are a few others west of the locations referenced by only a few dozen miles.
     
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  6. Free Bird

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    Yes well I think I will end up going to Great Lakes TDS. They have two programs that I am interested in. The first one is a total of 200 hours and costs about $6000. This program offers 84 hours on the driving range and 40 hours driving on the road; the remainder of time is spent in the classroom, 76 hours. The other program I am looking into is a total of 300 hours, with 124 classroom hours, 128 hours on the driving range, and 48 hours driving on the road. This is the program i think I will take because it gives me much more time behind the wheel, which is what I want/need. This program is a little more costly, coming in at around $7500, but it seems like a good deal because I get a lot of driving time. If this is what I need to do to be confident and learn the right way, so be it. The student to vehicle ratio is 2:1 on the driving range, and 4:1 on the road. The student to instructor ratio on the yard is 10:1 and on the road it is 4:1. So it is very individualized training which is great. The only thing is that I need to be 21 years old to be accepted into the school, so I need to wait a few years, but I am willing to do what I need to do. Right now I am working in a warehouse loading/unloading trucks and working on the production team. I would like to find a job working in a trucking terminal doing this but most of the time it is all part-time and I need a full-time position. Oh well, I guess I gotta do what I can right now and hope everything works out in the long run. I can't wait to be 21 and be able to get my CDL and get the ball rolling for my career! Also, I just want to say thanks to everyone who has given advice to me thus far! It is really helpful this site is great! Any more info would really be appreciated. Thanks again!
     
  7. NewbiusErectus

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    I can't remember if they gave me a break on price or not (for paying up front), I don't think they did. All they're really doing is filling out paperwork if you get a loan, so it's not like they gain anything by you paying up front. I think I pd 5500 last year. Can't remember what the program was, but it was 4 weeks.

    Yard trucks were rough, but the road trucks were ok (Older FL centuries). There will likely be all new instructors when you go, I'm surprised some of the road instructors could still pass physicals. But they had serious exp., and hopefully if they're gone, they're replaced by the same types. Some could be very .. Vocal .. , but they knew what they were doing.

    If I did it over, I'd go there again. I didn't know about the community college stuff when i went, so I might look at that. There's also TDDS in Lake Milton, heard a few positives there. But I knew I'd get some city traffic driving exp at Great Lakes since Cleveland is right there. No I480 or 77, lol, but you do go downtown. The rest is state and county routes, a few minor freeways.

    You have a few years yet, keep researching. And keep your driving and criminal records clean. You might also check out Holland or YRC, mebbe work the docks if you can get in, get to know LTL and see if they'll train you for driving (I've heard they do that sometimes, not sure tho).
     
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  8. muffinmanUSN

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    I have heard good things about both companies in the past. I also know of Roadmaster in Columbus area and International Trucking School of Ohio near Archbold. International runs a five week course and has financial aid available, as for Roadmaster not sure of length. I'm with Newbius though, probably better to look more into quality over price. If your comfortable and confident (not to a fault) then save money and time. However, when considering skill sets and realistic risks you may want to forget about $$$ an look at a longer program. I was attracted to financial aid options as they are easy to pay once driving, plus you can continue education online if you like while over the road. Either way you sound like a credit to the industry, insight and planning are key elements to success.
     
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  9. Free Bird

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    Thanks for the advice Newbius. I plan on being able to pay for the schooling up front, as in write a check for it. I'm not sure yet though I might take out a loan to help build my credit up because I don't have any at the moment, so I will have to think about that. But overall it sounds like you had a good experience there and I want the same. I will look into TDDS but I think I will end up going to Great Lakes.. And I hope I will have good instructors like you did, I'm sure I will. I will look into the local LTL companies, but from what I've heard all of their work is part-time, and I need a full time job. Also another question about Great Lakes.. how was their job placement? Like did it make it much easier for you to find employment or does it even matter? Thanks a lot man I appreciate it
     
  10. Free Bird

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    Yes those are my exact thoughts too muffinman. I would rather pay extra and know that I get top of the line training and be comfortable and confident that I can handle whatever a company throws at me rather than save a few thousand bucks and get a ####tty education where I could end up getting in trouble and end up losing chances at making this a career. If I gotta pay a couple G's more for quality training, so be it. I am absolutely fine with it because I plan on making this line of work a career for the rest of my life and I want to start off on the right foot. Thanks for your advice man!
     
  11. cdl.knowledge

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    Most companies it is either a paid receipt showing what you paid for school or they will need the loan agreement. Basically just proof that you paid for school and the amount, most companies have a "cap" on what they will pay for CDL school as well. Hope this helps
     
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