Carb forced me out of Calif.

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  1. Cowpie1

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    I never fell for that line. California has required emission testing of personal vehicles since the 70's, yet, the majority of the country still does not have emission testing requirements. Just like autos and pickups, larger vehicles will be grandfathered in. True, maybe the glider truck thing will be abolished in the regulations, and only emission compliant trucks will be available for sale, but I highly doubt all trucks nationwide will have to meet CARB standards, even within the next 30 years. Unlike California, you implement that kind of stuff in places like the midwest, and you will be sure to have a a very large group of farmers that will be at the various state houses with pitch forks and torches ready to seek out retribution on lawmakers. They are far more numerous of the population in those areas than compared to the population of California, and they are not as meek as farmers are there either.
     
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    Looks like we're gonna get an extension. Again.
     
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    seriously?
     
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    When I lived in Calif , I worked for a HD towing co. When all these new trucks at the ports and the RR were required and purchased by all the drayage companies servicing them we were worried work would slow down. Boy were we wrong, we were busier than ever towing new trucks , and we didnt have to deal with O/O about the price as it was a waranty tow and the Manufacturer would pay. I agree w G/Man and I would say close to 90% of our tows were new units .
    I know alot of people who have left Calif, from O/O to fleet owners and always wonder if a # can be put on how much Calif has lost and will lose from all the trucks that have or will leave that state.
     
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    Cowpie is correct. There are still a lot of real men in this country who are not going to go quietly to be subservient to government. I believe people are waking up and realizing that .gov is the problem and not the solution. At least I can hope
     
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    Yeah, smog is so made up.
     
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    I think CARB is working on a plan to let noncompliant trucks operate up to 5000 miles /year in CA.
    I heard that on Landline radio.
     
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    I am leased to a large refrigerated carrier and we pull a lot of freight out of Cal. My truck is not compliant and I'm not about to replace it at this point. I just finished paying it off in June!
    I'm just going to wait and see how things shake out. I'm told by my carrier my profile to the load planners will simply say, "NOT CALIFORNIA COMPLIANT", and not receive dispatches to or from the state.
    Be interesting to see how this all works out.
     
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    I just read something about the 5000 mile allowance for non-carb legal trucks in CA. It seems it's for trucks that don't travel more than 5000 miles per year. Not just 5000 miles in CA.
    But it looks like other non-carb trucks can travel up to 1000 miles per year in CA. (U might need a permit or something ).
     
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    The very first California smog regulations were the requirements to put on PCV valves on automobiles sold in California in 1961. The precedent was set then and then expanded many ways over the years, to trucks, to industry etc. It was all done because of the very unique geographic and climatic conditions mostly in Southern California. It is surrounded by mountains with atmospheric conditions that frequently trap air masses in place - smog. Take a look at any movie filmed in the 1970's in Southern California - you can see the smog in the air.
    No other area of the country has these severe conditions, some have tried unsuccessfully to get the same smog rules in like NYC, but failed.
    The new precedent - retrofitting - is what is at issue here. A huge change in policy, not unlike Obamacare. Both liberal programs are unworkable, and they have to save face while they salvage their political lives.
     
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