carry laws?

companies don't make laws. and for people who keep saying it is illegal - would you either quit saying this, OR provide the chapter and verse? or the general statute?

 

You're right. I started the thread "Carry Guns in the Truck" in the experienced drivers section back in March of last year and it's still going on up to 15 pages now.

I still think it's stupid to carry a gun in the truck solely for the reason that there are laws on the books that most drivers will not be aware of and they will be hang if caught.

There's no one permit that will allow you to carry a weapon in all the states. You're required to check every town, city, and county that you'll travel through to make sure you're legal. Hardly worth my time.

Chief you're right companies do not make laws but they do make policies and those policies can cost you your job. I would not want to invest my time and money into a career that gets washed down the toilet because I violated a policy that would get me fired. And I'm sure that one would.

I'm not saying it's stupid to carry a weapon. What I am saying it would be real stupid to carry that weapon without knowing ALL the laws or company policies that pertain to it. And to know ALL those laws is very labor intensive.

 

Not to offend anyone, but I AM saying it is stupid to carry a weapon, especially if that weapon is a firearm. Guns are for target shooting and killing. Not likely to do much target shooting on the road, so that leaves killing.You better have a D@$N good reason to pull that weapon on someone, or you are in serious trouble. You better be D@$N sure you are capable, both physically and mentally, of blowing someones head off IF you pull that weapon, or you are in serious trouble. (Some crank, or crackhead, who doesn't see things quite the same way you do just may force you to use it, or die.) You better make D@$N sure that if you use that weapon that you had no other choice, or you are in serious trouble. If someone pulls a gun on me and wants my wallet, truck, whatever, he can have it. Not worth dying for, or killing someone over. If he doesn't have a gun, then I like my chances, but their will be no shootout at the OK for me. A heavy flashlight, tire thumper should be enough. Common sense and a good mind will usually be your best overall defenseive weapon.....

 

Everyone should be able to arm themselves, if they so wish. How the un-armed destinction can be made between sleeping in your own house vs your own truck, is beyond me. Criminals prefer to rob trucks and houses that they feel are not armed.

Who would you rather rob, a vehicle with NRA stickers on it, or one with Hillery 08, no blood for oil stickers on it? Put the same signs in the front lawn, and decide who's house you prefer to rob.

It'd take EXTREME circumstances for me to purposly aim for the vitals of a would be robber. Knee caps and limbs are another story, while extreme, such as ones self getting physicaly assulted by criminals.

I cant help but think of that driver who was shot dead in his sleeper in Tampa last month.

I can tell you this - If one was to take a bullet from a robber, it would become real easy to return fire, without much concern on the putcomes.

I should make up bumper stickers that say "This truck is un-armed" and sell them to some of you at truckstops. Better yet I'll give 'em out free, provided you agree to slap it on your drivers door for good. LOL

 

Well, alot of the companies that we work for have rules prohibiting firearms. Therefore, it is not a choice.

Personally, I don't have a problem not worrying about anybody and their gun whether it be at home, motel, truck or whereever.

 

I cannot and will not argue with drivers whos hands are tied regarding complience with company policy of "no guns" aboard. The top brass at megacarriers inc is far more concerned with liabilities and getting sued, than they are anything else.

I'll also not argue with drivers heeding and trying to comply with the anti gun laws, in such great states like NY, NJ, Il, Ca, etc.....I get that.

But I'll go to my grave supporting the notion that citizens (not felons) of this country should have the unilateral undenyable GOD given and "LEGAL" right to carry, even concealed, no matter what occupation they have, vehicle they drive, color of house they live in, or in what zipcode they reside, or what caliber they so choose, or any other yada.

Thankfully, do to the leftist commie laws and agenda laid out in select states, it is much easier for those who prefer to be un-armed to comply with these laws/policys, as opposed to the silent majority who prefer to defend themselves and property without waiting for someone else to come save their bacon later.

This all might make better sense to those here who understand - 1) the TRUE leftist liberal ideology, and 2) the bullspit trial lawyers and their ways of sucking the titz of this nation to its knees, for the almighty dollar.

Not all of us drive a company truck, or are employed at a mega carrier. Some of us own class 8 trucks, but are still bound by the laws of the anti American states we must drive through. Jist of my beef.

 

I mostly agree with that. Was just saying that the reality of the situation (like it or not) is that a trucker, or anyone else, who carries a gun in a motor vehicle is setting him/herself up for trouble.I don't make the laws, but have found it beneficial to follow them, regardless of my personal opinion concerning them......

 

This may have been posted before but here's a copy of the federal law.


http://law2.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fa...USC):CITE AND (USC w/10 (1030)):CITE


-CITE-


18 USC Sec. 926A 01/02/2006


-EXPCITE-


TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE


PART I - CRIMES


CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS


-HEAD-


Sec. 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms


-STATUTE-


Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or


regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any


person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from


transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to


transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he


may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place


where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during


such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the


firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible


or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such


transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle


without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the


firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container


other than the glove compartment or console.


-SOURCE-


(Added Pub. L. 99-360, Sec. 1(a), July 8, 1986, 100 Stat. 766.)


-MISC1-


PRIOR PROVISIONS


A prior section 926A, added Pub. L. 99-308, Sec. 107(a), May 19,


1986, 100 Stat. 460, provided that any person not prohibited by


this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm be


entitled to transport an unloaded, not readily accessible firearm


in interstate commerce notwithstanding any provision of any


legislation enacted, or rule or regulation prescribed by any State


or political subdivision thereof, prior to repeal by Pub. L. 99-


360, Sec. 1(a).


EFFECTIVE DATE


Section effective on date on which Firearms Owners' Protection


Act, Pub. L. 99-308, became effective, see section 2 of Pub. L. 99-


360, set out as an Effective Date of 1986 Amendments note under


section 921 of this title.

 

this "right" sounds reasonable. you can carry a gun, as long as it's unloaded, and you can't get to it. why don't cops have to keep their guns unloaded and stored in the trunk of their cruiser?

makes about as much sense as the old tax stamp drug laws. you have to have the "stamp" to get the drugs. but of course, you can't get the "stamps" because they don't exist. why does the American population still tolerate being treated like children by "our" government?

also, why doesn't (the NRA) or whoever sue these companies for trying to deny citizens their constitutionally guaranteed rights to keep and bear arms? I do kind of like the tire thumper/flashlight idea though. just make sure you're holding it in front of your body in the exact path of the bullet.