Whats the deal with Lumpers

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Richter, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    So i've been pulling vans for months. (was flatbed before that) This is the first time I came to a facility that requires lumpers. They wont let me self lump since i dont have forklift certification, but luckily my company pays it. So why does this receiver charge when all the others dont? Does this get billed back to the shipper or does my company actually pay it? Normally the receiver unloads the truck for free.

    As and o/o, if i had my own authority would i be responsible for these charges? How do you know a head of time so you charge the shipper a high enough rate? I've had stops where i helped unload, but never where they dont let me and force us to pay their lumpers.
     
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  3. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    By law, the driver cannot be made to pay unloading charges. An O/O might have to front the cash, but will be reimbursed in the settlement. It is not part of the rate.
     
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  4. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Lumpers,gotta love em or you'll go insane.This is how they get you by wanting a forklift certification.Be lucky you're not pulling reefer.They have warehouses and the majority of customers have lumpers.Its crap ,pay to unload their stuff.Think all walmart DCS have lumpers $50.00 is all I ever had to pay them.Still too much far as im concerned.Just imagine what they make per shift with all the trks coming in.I don't know why they charge,I suppose because they hire lumpers.Maybe not enough staff to unload it.
     
  5. bubba mark

    bubba mark Medium Load Member

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    Lumpers are usually outside employees. They do not work for the company you are delivering to and they do not get a percentage of what you pay to have them unload you. Those guys are paid by the hour mostly. The reason your company will pay a lumper $300 and only pay you maybe $75 to unload the same freight is because that $300 is actually being paid by the shipper not your company as opposed to your company having you do it and having to pay you.

    Also the reason most grocery places use lumpers is because not only do they unload the truck they have to sort through all of it and restack it to ship to their stores. It's cheaper to use contract labor for that than it is to actually hire people to do it.
     
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  6. Snowshoes

    Snowshoes Heavy Load Member

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    Basha's in Phoenix charges an arm and a leg for a lumper, AND they are one of the slowest warehouses EVER! Associated in Phoenix charges a lot also, but they are slightly quicker. Kings in Aurora is pretty pricey too. I was fortunate and the companies I worked for all had comdata checks and paid for it.
     
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  7. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    Sounds like a scam lol. The customer should be responsible for any fees associated with unloading the product. When I drove flatbed, we never needed to pay anyone to unload us lol. Extra 2 hours to get it authorized. PITA
     
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  8. Winkjr

    Winkjr Road Train Member

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    I live warehouses with lumpers it's where I make my funny money.
     
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  9. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    After pulling a flatbed why would you ever start pulling groceries? Must be one of those weirdos that gets off on being treated like garbage
     
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  10. KeithT1967

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    Lumpers are NOT employees of the receiver. They are either day labor that just shows up to make some extra money (less common these days) or are employees of a third party company. The practice started in unionized warehouses because the receiver refused to hire yet another union employee to drive up their labor costs. It's still going on for the same reason although there are a lot fewer union companies.
     
  11. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    I pull van and just happened to get one load of groceries. I stopped flat because it suck this time of year and im lazy lol(not really).
     
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