My husband is currently in school and has everything down very well except he hasn't been able to get a lot of backing practice in. The school he attends, which I won't name, lets students roll-over into the next class if they don't do well the first time and it seems that they are "taking over" and taking time away from the currently enrolled students. My husband has only been able to get in the truck twice to practice backing and he is supposed to grad on 3 Jan '14. He straight backs just fine, but is a bit stuck on backing by breaking/jacking the rig (not blind, drivers side backing).
Of course, technically he could roll-over into the next class, but honestly we don't have a lot of time (money) left for him to wait to get to work. They are in classroom the next two days with NO truck time and off all next week. He has class 30 Dec, then 2 and 3 Jan and that's it.
If any truckers can offer any technical advice I would greatly appreciate it. If you know of any videos (I've searched YouTube but a lot of them only show the trucker doing the backing, rather than doing a step by step or a commentary while backing)...any and all advice will do. Best case of course would be if someone had a truck near us and would allow him to practice with you, but I'm sure that's a long shot. (But just in case, we're in Hampton Roads, VA and he's willing to drive a bit of distance if someone is willing to help in this way.)
Thanks in advance for any help/advice.
Backing Advice for a Student Please
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by ShadowCat, Dec 18, 2013.
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Easiest thing is to remember that if you are going to hit something with your trailer turn your wheel towards it. As far as doing a 90 driver side back, put your truck where you have plenty of room on both sides to maneuver and pull the truck plenty far past where you want to back into. I aim to have the end of my trailer at least half a trailers length past the spot I want if I can. And lastly open your door and lean out and watch your trailer, or at the least lower your window and lean out that way. I used to be totally against doing that but it makes it so much easier now I do it almost all the time. Remember when in doubt get out of your truck and look. You as a driver are responsible for the safe operation of that vehicle so you do whatever is necessary to back it in safely, and if you piss off supertrucker jimbob oh well.
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Quick and dirty method to get you through the test:
When backing in car, you probably have one hand on the top of the steering wheel. When backing with a trailer, put one hand at the bottom of the steering wheel. Your hand will move in the same direction (left to right) as it does when backing without a trailer...
For over-correcting (very common when new). See where the tandems are aimed. Do they need to turn more or less? Steer accordingly.Skydivedavec Thanks this. -
When he gets on with a company he will be out with a trainer and he can let the trainer know he wants to work on backing quite a bit. Backing becomes part experience and part feel. IE...part experience=type of truck and position of tandems (trailer axles); part feel=how tired and frustrated you are or if your kidneys are about to blow up. There are no penalties for moving a couple feet and getting out to check but there are penalties for not checking and feeling that "bump".
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Go slow, get out and look often- never expect or aim for perfection.
Don't let these nasty dirty drivers that stare at you in parking lots rush you, or make you feel bad.
Bear in mind that the huge majority of preventable accidents/incidents in trucking, occur when backing. You're more likely to get a preventable when backing than you are to get into a collision on the interstate.
It's one of the most overlooked things in training, in my most honest of opinions- not that I'm an expert by any means whatsoever; I'm just saying on a personal level that I wish my company would've focused more on backing and less on say, shifting or practicing just going forward. Backing is one of the hardest parts of the job when it comes to doing it safely, some days you're hot; you'll slam that thing right in the hole with zero problems, then some days you're not; it will take a complete reset and three pull ups just to bump a dock lopsided.
But hey, it's part of the job.Skydivedavec Thanks this. -
(Must be a common problem)
Fortunately for me I aced my backing test just today with a perfect score (100). My roommate however was not so fortunate and failed. Tonight we visited WalMart and purchased a truck and trailer with front steering and played on the floor like kids going over what happens when you turn the wheel. What we discovered was his confusion with which way to turn the wheel. My advice to him was to use the bottom of the steering wheel to steer instead of the top, (something I read in a post on this wonderful forum) and boom! Suddenly his eyes got big and he said, 'That's it!'
He has it now in his mind that by doing so he can steer in the direction that he needs the trailer to travel and it will be just like backing his auto.
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Oh yeah the other thing. Put your hands at the bottom of the wheel, palms up pinkies together. Extend your thumbs out. Turn the wheel in the direction you want the trailer to go.
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Where has he decided to go for his training period? Or where has he decided to go to get his first year in? What is he going to be doing? if he can get his CDL and is going with a trainer let him go, he will be able to work with the trainer on his backing! If he is just going to work and straight into a truck then he may want to roll over in class. I wish you luck.
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I guess majority rules! There's your answer(s)!!
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Great advice, and he's taking in everything I've read him of your reply. For my husband's test, however, he is NOT allowed to look behind him, he MUST only use mirrors. Any advice for just using mirrors? Thanks.
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