Pete 379 cat acert c15? Died while idling at 1000 RPms here in cold country

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  1. lokahi117

    lokahi117 Light Load Member

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    I left my truck to go to town last night (about 70 miles) and it was nine o'clock and the truck was cold because inhale shut it off during the day while slept to conserve fuel. It was warm out that day (around 28 degrees). But whenever I leave the truck and it could get really cold, I usually leave it running and idle it up to about 1000 RPms. It was nine o clock pm when I left and when I returned the truck had died and the heater fan had run the batts completely dead.

    So I thought it might be a fuel issue, but I looked and have over three qtr in both tanks. It is winter blend and has been treated religiously with power service anti gel fuel conditioner. The fuel is very obviously in a liquid state.

    Now ow based ion the fact that the clock appears to have stopped at around 1:15am I'm guessing truck died around 11or so. I know it ran like Normal for the twenty five mins I was in it while getting ready to get in my car and head to town.

    So I'm curious what could likely cause this? Fuel filters are less than a month on, and the temps are so warm right now, I'm reluctant to think gelled up because i also treated the fuel extra.

    So I'm open to suggestions and everything always appeared to be running right according to the gauges when idling up to this point.

    Thanks again guys
     
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  3. wore out

    wore out Numbered Classic

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    There are a lot of variables that it could be. Since you were having the boost problem first they are probably connected. Hopefully it is something as simple as the hand primer or pickup tube sucking air, this would also cause a low boost and power problem due to lack of fuel. Possible to be the gear pump that wouldn't be bad. I would see what fuel pressure is while cranking. Usually problems get worse with time. Course on the worse side it could of had a catastrophic failure due to the previous problem or unrelated events. If the low coolant sensor is set to shut down it could have shut it down. The possibilities are so endless.
     
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  4. lokahi117

    lokahi117 Light Load Member

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    Thank you so much for your constantly prompt replies. Really makes you feel less stranded when you know you have a base of "boots on the ground" knowledge to help.

    I started with the abcs of diagnostics and kept it simple. I borrowed a friends semi to begin hooking up my two sets of quality jumper cables and getting my batteries on the mend before it gets much colder.

    Thats isolating problem one of no juice.

    Next while it was charging, I opened the hood and began looking for any rapid fluid loss which might have caused a sensory I shut down the motor to avoid serious damage. Upon doing so I noticed the serpentine belt had broken and that likely led to the shut down.

    So as long as everyone concurs on that being the most likely cause. Either way it must be fixed to continue diagnosis. I am going to try to replace it myself.

    I notice ice what appears to be a tensioner pulley that also appears to have a square female recess that would allow for the male "knub" of a perhaps 1\2 drive ratchet to be inserted and then tension to be removed. There are also what looks like little holes to perhaps insert a drill bit of appropriate shank size through both holes while under the tension of the ratchet thus allowing me to remove the ratchet and replace the belt.

    Does that all sound right? And can this all be done easily without removing pulleys and components ie radiator etc?
     
  5. QUALITYTRUCK

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    if your serpentine belt broke,you probably have a pulley frozen.check all things that spin,i bet you find one frozen.usually pulley on tensioner.no alternator,truck had to run off of batteries until dead.good luck.
     
  6. Oscar the KW

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    Yep, just use a 1/2" ratchet or breaker bar. You will have to run the new belt around the fan, over and under any pulleys and idlers, then use the bar to pull the tensioner back and slip the belt in place on it last. Before you start the engine make sure everything is seated correctly, routed correctly and DO NOT forget to take the bar off of the tensioner.
     
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  7. KC Guardrail

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    Belts usually don't just break. Locate the cause, usually a tensioner pulley or idler pulley, and fix it before wasting $75 on a new belt.
     
  8. lokahi117

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    And the bad pulley will feel froze up or like the bearings are going on it or what should I be looking for. I spun the tensioner already and it spins easily and freely and smoothly. And for some reason there are like four of these belts under the bunk of this truck along with several headlights and all the fluids. So is it possible this might just be a poor design? Also there is a picture drawn in silver marker showing the belts route over and under the various components. All this is leading me to believe this was needing done fairly often. What are your guys thoughts? It's a c15 I believe. Acert motor.
     
  9. KC Guardrail

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    Might be a common theme. Check all the pulleys, especially the AC. Also check the pulleys to make sure they all have the same number of grooves. I have made that mistake before. A 5 groove pulley on a 6 groove system will eat a belt pretty quick.
     
  10. zenaddler

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    Also the pulleys have to have all be lined up. I drove a truck once that ate up belts and it was because one of the pulley was to far forward.the braccket was slightly bent.
     
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  11. Jesse_James

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    Check all the pulleys really carefully. It doesn't take much play to ruin a belt. If something is wiggling just a little, but doesn't seem bad, that is probably what is causing it to eat belts.
     
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