10 meter radio in a truck - legal question.

But the most salient point here is, the use to which it is put. It is a moot point for a licensed Amateur: he can operate a toaster if he can make it transmit and also meet the provisions of Part 97---which has nothing to do with Part 95. I'm saying these things are sold to CBers for the express purpose of breaking the law. Me, I wouldn't p*** on one of 'em. Its just the way I feel about them and their ability to encroach on ME in my LEGAL use of 10 Meters. I am within my right to resent it!

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Did anybody get anything positive about ham radio out of this thread? Or did I miss something?

 

Found this on a scanner discussion boards about Local or State cops enforcing FCC regulations. It appears that Bill Clinton signed a bill back in 2000 that allows them do just that.

Maryland uses it to make money. Maryland has been doing this for several years. A truck crosses the scales and DOT looks into the truck. They see a 10 meter/Export/Amateur radio. Then they ask if you have a license to operate that radio. If you do have one it will cost you a $7,500 fine and up. This is what made me get my Ham ticket.


Q: Does the bill HR 2346 give local law enforcment the juridition to monito cb radio interferance. Cb and HAM was the jurisdiction of the FCC. I just read an article that said it was passed. The gov. was trying to add that part in it. Did it get put in?
A: the FCC shall "provide technical guidance to state and local governments regarding... violations"


President Bill Clinton has signed legislation that permits the enforcement of certain FCC Citizens Band regulations by state and local governments. Amateur Radio operators are exempt from the provisions of the law, now PL 106-521.

Congressional lawmakers saw the measure as a way to give a voice to those experiencing radio frequency interference resulting from illegal CB radio operation. The FCC will not yield its authority to regulate Citizens Band or other radio services, however.

In short, the measure authorizes states and localities to enact laws that prohibit the use of unauthorized CB equipment--consistent with FCC regulations. This would include the use of high-power linear amplifiers or equipment that was not FCC-certificated (formerly called "type-accepted").

Specifically, the bill enables state or local regulation over the "use of Citizens Band radio equipment not authorized by the Commission" and "the unauthorized operation of Citizens Band radio equipment" between 24 and 35 MHz. FCC-licensed stations in any radio service--including the Amateur Service--are excluded from such state or local enforcement, and state or local laws enacted under this legislation must identify this exemption.

Anyone affected by the enforcement of such legislation could appeal to the FCC if they believed the state or local government had overstepped its authority under the new law. Any applicable state or local law would not preclude the FCC from enforcing regulations in a given case at the same time.

The new law also says the FCC shall "provide technical guidance to state and local governments regarding the detection and determination of violations" of any regulations localities might enact.

The bill--HR.2346 is the House version; it was S.2767 in the Senate--actually is the old Senate "Feingold bill" from several sessions ago. After introducing his original version a few years back, Wisconsin Sen Russell Feingold requested assistance from the ARRL to rewrite the measure to ensure that licensed hams could not be affected, that the bill featured a wealth of "due process" provisions, and that the concept of federal preemption over telecommunication activities wouldn't be compromised. The bill signed by the President is nearly identical to the Feingold bill.

The bill's sponsor, Rep Vernon Ehlers of Michigan said Amateur Radio operators encouraged him to introduce the measure in the House last year. Ehlers maintained that the local hams asked him to support the bill because of the bad rap they were getting from illegal CBers using high-power linear amplifiers that resulted in TV and telephone interference while the CBers involved hid behind federal preemption.

 

Actually that's not what I'm saying. The border patrol has been given the right to pull people over for any reason within 100 miles of the external border, this was done by congress a while ago.

They are supposed to "permitted only for the specific purpose of protecting the nation’s borders" but they have in the past few years assisted cities like Detroit serve warrants, pull people over and a bunch of other things that are outside the limits set by congress and the courts.

They can enforce FCC licensing issues as they can also enforce other federal laws within this 100 miles of the external border.

 

Boy the hammy's here are full of themselves.

if you want to use your new radio please do. Don't worry about the DOT taking it away from you, I have never heard of that happening. Just stay off of the 10 meter band. As far as your radio being junk, not true, ham lies, it has Ranger internals. BUT if you do use it you will need to mount a antenna on your mirror with good Coax. Not the truck stop junk, but you can get the K-40 coax at the truck stop that is good, get the one where you can remove the
PL-259 connector on one end makes it simple to run the coax into the cab. Get the K-40 heavy duty mirror mount, that monster is the best out there. Then get a good antenna. The good ones are the K-40, the Wilson trucker 2000, or 5000 better. Or if you want to go with a open coil ( best ) the Predator 10-K short whip double coil is made for trucks.
Always keep in mind if you have a $500 radio an a $10 antenna your set up will perform like a $10 radio FACT your antenna is 60% of your system. If you try to use the antenna built into the roof of your truck it WILL cause the finals in your radio to go bad. The only way to check the SWR for that antenna is with a MFJ 259 meter, but you can not adjust them.

Now to drive the Hammy's nuts, my set up is a Galaxy 98VHP converted for 11 meters which does over 300 pep to drive my straight 8 pill to around 2,200 watts pep. With an Predator 30-K mounted in the center of my headache rack with LMR -400 UF coax. And my favorite calling channel is on 26,915.

And I am also an Extra Class, that has no problem with guys using export radios. So get over yourselves.

 

If you need to read the topic. He ask is the radio legal? None of us told him not to run anything. As for being an Amateur Extra I and several others are. Since you live where you do maybe your state doesn't look at this law as a cash cow. Which is good for you. And if you have a Ham ticket you would not have to worry anyway. Just because you have never seen something doesn't make sense in what you said. And would drive any amp with 300 watts? And LMR-400 need in a Big Truck along with Hammy really? This coming from an Extra class sounds like a pure CBer to me.

 

Pure CBer LOL

He must be one of those overmodulated "super bowl" clowns on channel 6....

 

Get out in the wilds in W TX and this crap covers up everything. We used 34 to get called to job for one frac company. Sunday the sand boss would just have to drive to staging area to get trucks he was ready for because we weren't listening to this schidt non stop.

 

I certainly can't argue as to whether the "alleged" extra class is who he says he is, but to most hams who actually know how to make RF work the best, all this talk about boo-koos of power still smells of "legendary" CBer who believes that the do-all, be-all of radio is "far in th' w'ar" and ever'thang turned to the rah't! as fur as hit will go! Real amateurs who have truly studied the art of radio know that power is NOT really needed to generate solid signals, and that many factors can be used to advantage (frequency characteristics, MUF, beacons to test a frequency). Indeed, there is something of a challenge in NOT having mega-watts, but being able to use their experience and finesse to reach that distant HF station. Me, I want to be able to reach that desired station without either stepping on the other fellow, OR creating interference to adjacent frequencies/stations. Yet there are those---even in the
Amateur community---that believe that being able to step on someone equates to being a "man" when, in reality, it is the mark of a very small-minded or immature individual who doesn't know how to make RF work the most with the least expenditure.

There are "Extra" class licensees, and there are "extra" class licensees that, due to the current licensing structure, simply memorized the test, copied it a few times from the internet and took the test. But they couldn't find the "Q" (efficiency) of a circuit if their life depended on it, nor could they get a multi-band HF antenna to work for the life of them! I had lots of these come back to me, supposedly "Extras", complaining they couldn't get their new HF mobile antenna to work! "Did you install the matching networking at the base," I asked.

"Uh......what's THAT?" Accompanied by a puzzled look.

I am not doubting the credentials of the poster as I said, but the thing about bragging on 2200 watts that is far beyond that is legal OR required smacks of CBer! LOL!

 

I'd love to see the signal coming out of that setup. To get 300W out of the 98VHP, you have to be driving the finals to clipping, and most 8 transistor amp designs top out at about 2000W. That signal has to be splattering so bad that you'd be lucky to get the original 200W of the VHP actually on channel.

FYI, your ham license will NOT protect you if you manage to attract the FCC's attention. Aside from your commercially made amplifier not having a certificate of type acceptance, your 300W splatter box is in violation of section 97.307 (Emission standards). But then, as an Extra Class ham, you already know that.