failure to secure load

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by teemaw, Dec 25, 2013.

  1. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Let's continue... :)

    If boxes are loaded loosely without shrink wrap and/or a load lock/strapping they can and will violate you. If a DOT man opens your back doors and boxes fall on him what you think he's gonna do? He ain't gonna laugh.
     
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  3. Saddletramp1200

    Saddletramp1200 Road Train Member

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    One of the best moments of my life. DOT inspection. Parked next to a loaded bull rack. Cow hit him in the back with a stream that any animal would be proud of. He stopped his inspection. Trooper Dunworth. 1993
    Arkansas. I tried to pet the cow, but I don't know witch one it was.
     
  4. Richter

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    My guess is the cop was being nice and gave you a lessor violation. I would never drive equipment that was in such bad condition the axle might fall off.
     
  5. KeithT1967

    KeithT1967 Road Train Member

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    I dont care if the boxes fall on the LEO when he opens the door. In your scenario the boxes were obviously contained in the trailer and not causing a vehicle instability problem. The boxes only exited the vehicle AFTER the LEO opened the door.

    As for everything else it obvious you have no idea how to read the regs. You cannot use 392.9 without also using 393.100 - 393.136. Let me clarify that statement. When using 392.9 you MUST refer to 393.100 - 393.136 because they are the clarifying regs. If you don't understand how the regs work with each other I cant help you. Further, its off topic.
     
  6. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

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    yes because how else do you find cracks in frames or check airlines and other components PS that could cost your company 50000 bucks in ontario canada lucky no one got killed or YOU would be getting sued for failure to do pretrip
     
  7. KeithT1967

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    Un-offficial disclaimer: The previous post in no way bears any resemblance to reality.

    ;)
     
  8. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

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    ok what is a pretrip ... as far as 50k fine in ontario canada for losing wheels it can be as a assembly or a single it dont matter .. their is no excuse for not inspecting equiptment old or new you dont lose a axle unless its got serious problems beforehand.. this industry sticks up for lazy people way too much
     
  9. KW Cajun

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    Speak for yourself. There's a lot of reality in giving a visual inspection/quick overview of all truck components, while doing a pre-trip.
    I'm not saying you'll catch every single defect, such as if it were a case of pre-failure metal fatigue, or harline cracking, but when I'm doing a pre-trip (yes, I'm UNDER the vehicle) inspecting brake parts, airlines, etc,, I'm also giving a quick visual scan of all suspension components, frame/crossmembers, loose bolts, and bushings, etc.

    It's just hard to imagine that such a catastrophic failure, such as the OP loosing an entire axle, occurred without some type of obvious visual defect, at the time a pretrip would have been done.
     
  10. KeithT1967

    KeithT1967 Road Train Member

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    This is a very simple concept to understand.

    Drivers do pre-trips to catch the day to day things... Fluid levels, required safety equipment, lighting, tires wear and inflation, loose lug nuts, etc.

    Mechanics do annual inspections... broken frame rails, damaged suspension components, etc.

    A tire falling off a truck is almost always going to be related to an improper pretrip, an entire AXLE assembly detaching from the truck is not normally a pretrip issue although it can be.

    Now to be clear. Unless you can show, ie: link, regulation quote, etc, where a pre-trip requirement exists to inspect WELDS on a trailer axle then you have no grounds for further disagreement. :)
     
  11. KW Cajun

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    Before I even need to show "link, regulation quote, etc"...
    How nice for you to ASSUME a weld was THE point of sole failure. Grand mistake to assume such, given the very limited info provided by the OP.
     
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