Is this legal? Companies get away with cheating on miles.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by v6killer, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. v6killer

    v6killer Medium Load Member

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    I'm leased with a company (I don't want to name it at this time). I pull loads from point A to point B which is exactly 450 miles plus FSC at the national level. ( I think am saying that right ) They only pay out 400 miles plus FSC.


    Some of the drivers were complaining about the miles not being accrued ( The town close off access, so you have to drive out of your way an extra 50 miles. It's been like that for 10+ years ) so the company increased the base pay to .13 cents more per mile on that load, so the base pay covers the 450 miles, but drivers still lose out on the FSC miles they only pay for 400 miles.


    The company am Leases on too, I received increase on all loaded miles.


    But they are back to the old ways of do business, only paying me 400 mile to go from point A to point B, they know dam well its 450 miles. That's why they upped the base rate the first time, ever since the rate increase I received,they are back to there old ways. When I checked with PCMiller it says 451 miles one way.


    Since my contract states it pays me by the miles plus FSC ( PCMiller is stated in my contract how they determine their miles)


    So I emailed the company's terminal manager about miles being short, the answer I was given:

    Unfortunately with the increase overall we've given the Terminal, I cannot make adjustments for one lane. We got rid of all the jumbo's to simplify things. Hopefully you will look at the overall picture of the increase and not limit the areas you run.


    Only if that was true, I go to five other places where the miles are off, they upped the bases pay to cover those miles also, but not the FSC.


    Can they do this legally knowing that's 450 miles and only paying 400 miles and on FSC.
    Do I have any legal grounds to stand on, to me this looks like fraud.
     
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  3. Higb

    Higb Light Load Member

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    That's why I lease on to MAG Carriers. Someone tells me the run is 400 miles and I run my own route and tell the broker it's 450 miles with 60 miles deadhead to go get it then I ask what they are paying then I quote how much I will take the load for. If there is not enough money in it I can't do it.
     
  4. 8thnote

    8thnote Road Train Member

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    The "out-of-route" miles, on trips that are paid practical, should never be more than 10% (that's the high end, on a short trip such as yours) and is usually never less than 5%. You're not getting paid for 12.5%, which would be unacceptable in my book.
     
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  5. Cman301

    Cman301 Light Load Member

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    Ha ha ha ! you must not have ever got paid by the old household movers guide miles( biggest ripoff in history!) unless you are getting hub miles you are going to get screwed on mileage!
     
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  6. luvtotruck

    luvtotruck Road Train Member

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    Well Driver it must be Legal! They are doing it! No I wouldn't put up with this crud for a minute! They need to come up with the FSC for the miles. But if it isn't a good deal see wat else you can find! Good Luck.
     
  7. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    As long as they can get trucks to run it at whatever they offer, that will be the rate.If no one hauls it at the 400 mile rate for FSC, they will have to raise it. Legal,I think it is. But I am not a lawyer.
     
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  8. Rooster1291979

    Rooster1291979 Road Train Member

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    If your contract states they pay you mileage based on PC miller, and are not, they are violating the contract. This is actionable on your part. I'm not saying it's worth the effort, but you have cause under your contract.
     
  9. v6killer

    v6killer Medium Load Member

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    Yes , my contract say PCMiller. Haft the routes I have are set rates, most are good. They do pay me 3% more FSC above the national ave.
    i have to go through my settlement every week I always find a mistake. I do hold payroll feet to the fire every time. I shouldn't have to do this every week.
     
  10. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    PC Miler has more than one way to calculate the miles. They could be paying you based upon PC Miler. It just depends on the criteria that they use. I use PC Miler practical miles. It is usually fairly close on the miles. If they are using HHG miles, then they will not be accurate. If you are not happy with them then I would find another carrier.
     
  11. Forgethetrucker

    Forgethetrucker Bobtail Member

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    I think every company should pay hub miles only.:yes2557:
     
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