question reguarding CDL

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  1. PioneerWagonDriver

    PioneerWagonDriver Bobtail Member

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    We are about to start the process of obtaining our own authority. We are starting with an under 26,000 rig. Can I drive without CDL? Do I need a "for hire" rating or not?
     
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  3. CondoCruiser

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    gpsman Thanks this.
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    PioneerWagonDriver Bobtail Member

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    F350 and 50 ft wedge trailer. The trail of questions on that site was just for the business side and truck requirements, which we know and on the verge of starting the process of obtaining it all within a few days. Maybe today or tomorrow. But it didn't tell me what license I need. My brother already has a class A CDL but I don't, (we both will be driving it) And I'm the one who's done all the driving of private trucks in similar arrangements, including doubles and tows with trailers behind the towed vehicle. (Tricky handling sometimes) We will need to run together for a few trips so he can get accustomed to the arrangement. All he's done is drive big strait trucks in storm cleanup jobs.

    A friend who we are getting the trailer from thought I'd need an F endorsement for the "for hire" category. But then thought since were doing our own authority that may not be required.

    I did a 360 mile test run with it to pick up our second truck 2 days before Christmas, (found a bargain chevy ton truck with dead engine) trip went fine but a few more small problems showed up which I've been working on, and doing some engine mods to boost MPG. A 26 year old truck that's been sitting a few years has a few problems when it goes back to running.
     
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  5. CondoCruiser

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    Okay you threw me off with the for hire. All CDLs mean you are engaged in commerce. You add the trailer you move to GCWR which puts you over 26,000 lb rating for both units added together. The trailer by itself has a GVWR over 10,000 lbs. In TN they have a special CDL class A/57 for that. It's a special Class A with a 57 restriction code which is for a special group of combination vehicles. You can pull that wedge trailer and things like mobile homes going to market or even a dump truck pulling a dozer but you can't drive a semi. You'll do your road test with that wedge trailer.

    http://www.tn.gov/safety/driverlicense/CDL_Classifications.pdf
     
  6. PioneerWagonDriver

    PioneerWagonDriver Bobtail Member

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    OK, thanks, I just didn't know where to look for the info.
    Trailer is rated 20,000 gross with 15,000 load, and if truck is around 6000 we can keep it under 26,000 actual weight. (my old dodge 3/4 ton 4x4 is 6000, so I'm assuming the 2x4 ford is similar even though it's a ton truck)
    However according to that info anything with a trailer over 10,000 requires CDL. And our truck has a 10,000 lb GVWR rating which would put the total at 30,000 combined GVWR. Apparently I do have to get a CDL. just because the trailer is over 10,000.

    But it looks like if I had a strait truck that could haul 2 cars, and put a single car trailer behind it. With the combined weight under 26,000. I could run it without a CDL. OK I'll just have to get it.
     
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