Lets stir the pot with another safety discussion - U-TURNS??

Discussion in 'Schneider' started by dieselfuelonly, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. dieselfuelonly

    dieselfuelonly Road Train Member

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    I know its against Schneider's safety policies to make u-turns. And it's not just one of those "slap on the wrist" policies, either. I've read several threads on here about drivers being let go because of them. It's on the list of reasons for termination for IC's, too, a couple other "big" reasons like not reporting accidents, etc.

    So here is my question - is there ANY u-turn maneuver that Schneider considers to be legal? Where does one draw the line?

    I understand not making a u-turn at a small intersection with an uncontrolled left turn.

    I understand not making a u-turn on a divided highway when the sign says "no u-turns" or "trucks no u-turn"

    However, where does one draw the line?

    My favorite example - the tiny drop yard we share with who knows how many other customers in Winchester, VA. Look it up on Google maps, address is:

    1752 Berryville Pike Winchester, VA 22603

    Now tell me, say you're coming from the east on Berryville Pike (7). How are you going to get into that lot without making a u-turn at the intersection? The intersection of 7 and Regency Lakes Dr. has a controlled left turn (green arrow), obviously for the purpose of making a u-turn, as I don't see them putting in a controlled left turn just to enter the little business at the end of the spur of Regency Lakes Dr.

    There are no overpasses for MILES on 7 to get turned the opposite direction on - really the only option would be to continue down 7 until you hit 81, then go further down 81 either north or south, get going the opposite direction, then exit BACK on to 7 and then enter the drop yard. If I remember correctly it would take between 10-15 miles to do that. Ok, now its time to leave the lot. You need to get back to 81. But how? You don't know the ins and outs of the side streets and what is safe to take and what isn't. There is another intersection just east of the drop lot with the same controlled left turn... but nooo, not supposed to make that u-turn.

    Really, keep looking on Google maps, keep heading East on 7 until you find a place to get turned around without making a u-turn, and a place that is right off the road that a driver not familiar with the area could easily spot and safely utilize. Yeah.... right.

    Imagine coming to this area at night - what are you gonna do??? Especially if you nee to leave the drop lot and head east back to 81... really, put yourself in that situation.

    I know how I PERSONALLY got into and out of that drop yard... just sayin. You know what I mean. What do ya'll think?

    And what about the u-turns on large divided highways that specifically have a large pull-out area on the side of the road obviously meant for a truck to be able to swing out into? Still not allowed according to Schneider?

    I've never gotten in trouble for anything like this. I never want to, either, especially since getting caught could end your career at Schneider. So thats why I'm asking.

    *grabs popcorn
     
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  3. yessir

    yessir Medium Load Member

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    Don't worry about company policy they only care about their equipment and their loads just what you have to do as long as you do it ssafely my company said no u turn i told them to kiss my bt i will make u turns if i lost in the middle of nowhere as long as i dont put my life in danger and other motorists
     
  4. dieselfuelonly

    dieselfuelonly Road Train Member

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    It's funny because its the one safety policy they seem REALLY serious about, as in they state its grounds for termination (along with unreported accidents, and high hooks).

    I remember them drilling "NO BACKING INTO CUSTOMERS OFF THE STREET" into us, yet they send me to H20 Plus in the middle of downtown Chicago... yeah what do you want me to do just drive through the building? HEY GUYS I'M HERE, I DID A PULL THROUGH, SORRY 'BOUT YOUR WALL
     
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  5. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Of course they care about their equipment and they hope you do too. When you have to buy $400 tires you would think twice about dragging them side wards. Not to mention all the drivers that damage fairings doing U-turns or misjudge the situation and now they are a road block like that one USA video we have in another thread.

    Then you have the issue of the time it takes to initiate a U-turn. Some don't have the sense to time traffic or is there a blind hill or curve. After that 4 wheeler runs up under your trailer you'll wish you took an extra 15 minutes. Rules were made for the stupid and the rest have to follow.

    I think I remember one story on here where one driver got fired over a U-turn.

    If you have to drive an extra 15 miles once in a blue moon is it really a big deal? Most people that get in trouble usually say "beep" it! :)

    If U-turns wasn't a big deal the company rule wouldn't be industry wide. When someone gives you money to perform a service for them you do what they want and not what you want.
     
  6. VolvoVNLTrucker

    VolvoVNLTrucker Bobtail Member

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    If you've realized you've passed your destination, no need to make a U-Turn. You now know where it is. Don't sweat it. What's more; you can very easily flip a trailer if you attempt a tight jackknife Uoooey and misjudge your speed....
     
  7. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    3 legal lefts (or rights) = u-turn! Common sense applied = steady pay checks and career!
     
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  8. yessir

    yessir Medium Load Member

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    Nice if i get lost in the middle of brooklyn, ny the only option i have is a u turn or go straight to a non truck route in order to make a few turns to get back on the road, which one would you take? I would just smh and make that turn right there it's my license, life and career and i ain't got to worry about company rules because whoever who makes the rules never get a chance to drive a car or a truck in brooklyn, ny and they have no clue.
     
  9. KeithT1967

    KeithT1967 Road Train Member

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    Missed a turn in TN 2 nights ago on scattered heavy fog. Ended up sitting in the shoulder looking at an intersection. It's two lanes on my side of the intersection in both directions. The other three roads are single lane. Google maps sat view shows this.... Left and right turns both end at businesses with no tur around possibilities. Going through the intersection puts me into a tiny town. I'm not a fan of nosing around on unfamiliar roads with possible fog obscuring every intersection. I made the decision I had to.
     
  10. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    Pass the popcorn, please. :happy1:

    What did Schneider say when you presented the questions above to them?
     
  11. gpsman

    gpsman Road Train Member

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    Where you would want it drawn if it was your truck, your trailer, your load, your insurance, and your decision to prohibit u-turns. The only u-turn crash I know of resulted in the 4-wheeler dying, Perfectly legal u-turn, 4-wheeler popped over a hill, going too fast of course because nothing is more fun than way out-driving your sight lines at night, and ran right into him. I'll give you 3 guesses who was found at-fault.
     
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