In VA we drop at least the counterweight and bucket, some set ups also require the stick to be removed, and that is on 7 or 8 axles. If you had a long wheel base tractor and 3 + 1 set up on the trailer you might trip permit it. I have seen 349D coming thru going to port on a 4 axle tractor and 3 + 1 set up on trailer. Depending on the trailer set up you might be able to gross the load but have trouble getting axle weights right.
Weight rating of trailers
Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by caftransport, Jan 2, 2014.
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We move them on tri axle truck, 8 wheel jeep, tri axle rgn lowbed.
Edit....10 wide trailer. Nothing taking off as for bucket or weight -
8 wheel jeep?? Do you mean tandem axle jeep with 8 wheels/ tires?
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Yes that's what he means. Up north they run a lot of 16 wheel jeeps and trailers as they get really good weights on them especially during road bans.
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The GVWR includes the weight of the trailer, for example my 55 ton trailer has a GVWR 131k, or 110k of cargo and 21k of trailer weight. So to be fair the cargo capacity is roughly 107.5k. Say you're using a true heavy spec truck, 16k front with a tri drive on the truck, 16+20+20+20+20+20+20, lets say the truck weights 19k and the trailer 12.5k, that leaves you with 104.5k, not too far from the cargo capacity. In a few states down south you can get 66k per tri, so in theory you should be able to permit it legally.
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Where can you get a true heavy spec truck that only weighs 19,000? Mine weighs 27,000
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I was talking a hypothetical best, it could be achieved with a light engine and a daycab. I do however have a Classic XL with a 12.7L, 18 speed tranny, facorty double frame, lift axle and 46k rears, weighing in at 21k with half tanks. I know the engine helps a lot with keeping the weight down, but it's still a lot of truck for the weight. You've got a KW and a CAT, neither are known for being light
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That's how I always thought GVWR meant, the weight of truck, trailer and cargo together. Some of those for sale listing seemed questionable to me esp. the step decks with 60 ton cargo capacity listings.
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In that case, from my understanding, you would add all of the GWVR together to come up with a total GVWR, not just the trailer. So you'd add say you have a truck with 72k GVWR and a trailer with a GVWR of 131k, your total GVWR would be 203k. Being able to permit it is a different issue, but that's how much weight you'd be able to handle while still being within the structural limits of your eqipment. The axles have their own measure, GAWR
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GAWR is another thing with heavy haul. Most RGNs have 25k axles but some states don't even recognize it and only allow 20k. I personally feel all states should follow federal weight ratings where interstate transport is concerned.
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