Too late to get chains, what can i pour down for traction?

Nope, ice on drive wheel brake shoes isn't like they're glued or cemented as long as you are gentle with the fuel to the engine. I've never seen anyone snap an axle with frozen brake pads on a drive. Maybe trying to slide the 5th wheel with 30,000 pounds in the trailer with the landing gear up but even if you gassed it a bit it wouldn't happen unless you're on a lake down wind and ice water is blown under the truck onto the wheels then you might have a little problem! Oh I guess by lockers you mean a wheel not locked in and no power to it? Then take that hammer and go back and tap on the shoe a little AFTER attempting to move the truck.

This is another reason you dry those brakes off before parking when driving in wet conditions in winter.

 

Nawww....

You gotta dip out a couple pints of fuel from your tank, Drink it, and then you can use a lighter to ignite it and piss fire like a flamethrower.

It melts the ice right away.

Now this ain't no lie...... I seen it done up on top of flag, but I didn't try it.

I'm just not "HARD CORE" i guess.

 

I hope you're not planning to run out west without chains right now. I'm not exactly sure of the #'s but I believe if you get pulled over in Colorado for a roadside inspection and you don't have chains, regarless of current snow conditions, the fine will be around $1000.

On second thought, Colorado could probalby use the revenue.

 

OK, Let's REALLY 'Put it all into context':

1. Chlorine Bleach is NOT soap. It is however made of:
   Sodium hypochlorite 5 - 10% (CAS# 7681-52-9), Sodium hydroxide <1% (CAS# 1310-73-2) --and-- Water.
   Sodium hypochlorite is a chemical compound with the formula NaClO. It is composed of a sodium cation (Na
   +
   ​
   ) and a hypochlorite anion (ClO
   &#8722;
   ​
   ); it may also be viewed as the sodium salt of hypochlorous acid. It is commonly known as bleach or liquid bleach.
   
   Today, an improved version of this method, known as the Hooker process (named after Hooker Chemicals, now Occidental Petroleum), is the only large scale industrial method of sodium hypochlorite production.Cl[SUB]2[/SUB] + 2 NaOH &#8594; NaCl + NaClO + H[SUB]2[/SUB]O
   Hence, chlorine is simultaneously reduced and oxidized; this process is known as disproportionation.
   The commercial solutions always contain significant amounts of sodium chloride (common salt) as the main by-product, as seen in the equation above.
   
   
   
   Sodium hydroxide, also known as caustic soda,[SUP][/SUP][SUP][/SUP] or lye, is an inorganic compound with the chemical formula NaOH. It is a white solid and highly caustic metallic base and alkali salt which is available in pellets, flakes, granules, and as prepared solutions at a number of different concentrations.[SUP][/SUP]
   Sodium hydroxide forms an approximately 50% (by weight) saturated solution with water.[SUP][/SUP] Sodium hydroxide is soluble in water, ethanol and methanol. This alkali is deliquescent and readily absorbs moisture and carbon dioxide in air.
   
   

 

Dude, this thread is about three years old, lol.

 

And his response looks as if it was copy and pasted from Wikipedia.

 

What about carrying a 4" x 30' tow strap and getting someone to give you some help getting out of that dock if you're stuck? Or will no one help anyone else any more?

 

OK, Let's REALLY 'Put it all into context':
http://www.thecloroxcompany.com/downloads/msds/bleach/cloroxregularbleach0809_.pdf

1. Chlorine Bleach is NOT soap. It is however made of:
   Sodium hypochlorite 5 - 10% (CAS# 7681-52-9), Sodium hydroxide <1% (CAS# 1310-73-2) --and-- Water.
   Sodium hypochlorite is a chemical compound with the formula NaClO. It is composed of a sodium cation (Na[SUP]+[/SUP]) and a hypochlorite anion (ClO[SUP]-[/SUP]); it may also be viewed as the sodium salt of hypochlorous acid. It is commonly known as bleach or liquid bleach.
   
   Today, a method known as the Hooker process (named after Hooker Chemicals, now Occidental Petroleum), is the only large scale industrial method of sodium hypochlorite production.
   Cl[SUB]2[/SUB] + 2 NaOH &#8594; NaCl + NaClO + H[SUB]2[/SUB]O
   Hence, chlorine is simultaneously reduced and oxidized; this process is known as disproportionation.
   The commercial solutions always contain significant amounts of sodium chloride (common salt) as the main by-product, as seen in the equation above.
   
   Sodium hydroxide, also known as caustic soda, or lye, is an inorganic compound with the chemical formula NaOH. It is a white solid and highly caustic metallic base and alkali salt which is available in pellets, flakes, granules, and as prepared solutions at a number of different concentrations.
   Sodium hydroxide forms an approximately 50% (by weight) saturated solution with water. Sodium hydroxide is soluble in water, ethanol and methanol. This alkali is deliquescent and readily absorbs moisture and carbon dioxide in air.
   
   
2. Household bleach and pool chlorinator solutions are typically stabilized by a significant concentration of lye (caustic soda, NaOH) as part of the manufacturing reaction. Skin contact will produce caustic irritation or burns due to defatting and saponification of skin oils and destruction of tissue. The slippery feel of bleach on skin is due to this process.
   .
3. SOAP / Saponification of triglyceride: Vegetable oils and animal fats are the main materials that are saponified. These greasy materials, triesters called triglycerides, are mixtures derived from diverse fatty acids. Triglycerides can be converted to soap in either a one- or a two-step process. In the traditional one-step process, the triglyceride is treated with a strong base (e.g., lye), which accelerates cleavage of the ester bond and releases the fatty acid salt and glycerol.
   .
4. BLEACH does Not contain any triglycerides or fats... Therefore it is NOT Soapy in any way shape or form... until you touch it and it starts melting YOUR skin oils and fat.
   .
5. Bleach, solvents, soda syrups (caustic) along with other chemicals (VHT) will temporarilly soften / chemically react with rubber to soften it.
   .
6. Today's rubber compounds are not the same as they were in the 60's and 70's. Back then tires contained high quantities of pure rubber whereas today they are typically 50% SBR.
   Styrene-butadiene or styrene-butadiene rubber (SBR) describe families of synthetic rubbers derived from styrene and butadiene.
   .
7. I have personally used bleach succesfully, but later used other chemicals made for the task of melting snow and ice; driveway cleaners.
8. Sodium Chloride is commonly found in many modern ice melting products - Sound familiar? Yep it is in bleach isn't it.
   http://www.motherearthnews.com/nature-and-environment/better-options-to-de-ice-your-driveway.aspx
   http://www.scotwoodindustries.com/brands/3/products/12
   http://www.wcpo.com/web/wcpo/money/...ey/best-worst-ice-melters-windshield-de-icers

Now to really bake your noodle, Try this one on for size and Note the chemicals mentioned starting at timeline 19:45 we get Fire from Water!:
[video=youtube_share;NwdSyACPkmQ]http://youtu.be/NwdSyACPkmQ?t=19m47s[/video]

 

ipogsd:
Yes I know it's three years old and you posted in it too. Funny how old posts still turn up in google isn't it?
So, now it's not 3 years old anymore is it?
I just brought it current.

Oscar the KW:
Yes some of this information is from Wikipedia which references other sources for factual data... which is imo better than taking somones opinion as gospel.
Is it not better to reference and backup what you claim?
Is it not better to put an end to the spread of fiction? ... Like the claim that 'Bleach is Soap'
That one statement that has gone unchallenged for three years is what prompted me to respond here.
Ignorance is a disease for which education is the cure.

 

my head hurts.............